From bdobreli at redhat.com  Fri Nov  2 16:32:43 2018
From: bdobreli at redhat.com (Bogdan Dobrelya)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 17:32:43 +0100
Subject: [Edge-computing] [tripleo][FEMDC] IEEE Fog Computing: Call for
 Contributions - Deadline Approaching
In-Reply-To: <B0E8D7E2-67A5-4465-B7EE-ACA82E1B787B@gmail.com>
References: <CAKe3RKoGZ+ejL-mfhB1dAROkKC=OBbf2b8kizQHJw3GJUzWqcw@mail.gmail.com>
 <53cf2d33-cee7-3f0d-7f28-74b29091a7ef@redhat.com>
 <8acb2f9e-9fbd-77be-a274-eb3d54ae2ab4@redhat.com>
 <B0E8D7E2-67A5-4465-B7EE-ACA82E1B787B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d219c20e-787e-0946-f1e5-da595927437a@redhat.com>

Hello folks.
Here is an update for today. I crated a draft [0], and spend some time 
with building LaTeX with live-updating for the compiled PDF... The 
latter is only informational, if someone wants to contribute, please 
follow the instructions listed by the link (hint: you need no to have 
any LaTeX experience, only basic markdown knowledge should be enough!)

[0] 
https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/#in-the-current-development-looking-for-co-authors

On 10/31/18 6:54 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thank you for sharing your proposal.
> 
> I think this is a very interesting topic with a list of possible solutions some of which this group is also discussing. It would also be great to learn more about the IEEE activities and have experience about the process in this group on the way forward.
> 
> I personally do not have experience with IEEE conferences, but I’m happy to help with the paper if I can.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ildikó
> 
> 

(added from the parallel thread)
>> On 2018. Oct 31., at 19:11, Mike Bayer <mike_mp at zzzcomputing.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:57 AM Bogdan Dobrelya <bdobreli at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> (cross-posting openstack-dev)
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> [tl;dr] I'm looking for co-author(s) to come up with "Edge clouds data
>>> consistency requirements and challenges" a position paper [0] (papers
>>> submitting deadline is Nov 8).
>>> 
>>> The problem scope is synchronizing control plane and/or
>>> deployments-specific data (not necessary limited to OpenStack) across
>>> remote Edges and central Edge and management site(s). Including the same
>>> aspects for overclouds and undercloud(s), in terms of TripleO; and other
>>> deployment tools of your choice.
>>> 
>>> Another problem is to not go into different solutions for Edge
>>> deployments management and control planes of edges. And for tenants as
>>> well, if we think of tenants also doing Edge deployments based on Edge
>>> Data Replication as a Service, say for Kubernetes/OpenShift on top of
>>> OpenStack.
>>> 
>>> So the paper should name the outstanding problems, define data
>>> consistency requirements and pose possible solutions for synchronization
>>> and conflicts resolving. Having maximum autonomy cases supported for
>>> isolated sites, with a capability to eventually catch up its distributed
>>> state. Like global database [1], or something different perhaps (see
>>> causal-real-time consistency model [2],[3]), or even using git. And
>>> probably more than that?.. (looking for ideas)
>> 
>> 
>> I can offer detail on whatever aspects of the "shared  / global
>> database" idea.  The way we're doing it with Galera for now is all
>> about something simple and modestly effective for the moment, but it
>> doesn't have any of the hallmarks of a long-term, canonical solution,
>> because Galera is not well suited towards being present on many
>> (dozens) of endpoints.     The concept that the StarlingX folks were
>> talking about, that of independent databases that are synchronized
>> using some kind of middleware is potentially more scalable, however I
>> think the best approach would be API-level replication, that is, you
>> have a bunch of Keystone services and there is a process that is
>> regularly accessing the APIs of these keystone services and
>> cross-publishing state amongst all of them.   Clearly the big
>> challenge with that is how to resolve conflicts, I think the answer
>> would lie in the fact that the data being replicated would be of
>> limited scope and potentially consist of mostly or fully
>> non-overlapping records.
>> 
>> That is, I think "global database" is a cheap way to get what would be
>> more effective as asynchronous state synchronization between identity
>> services.
> 
> Recently we’ve been also exploring federation with an IdP (Identity Provider) master: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone_edge_architectures#Identity_Provider_.28IdP.29_Master_with_shadow_users
> 
> One of the pros is that it removes the need for synchronization and potentially increases scalability.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ildikó



-- 
Best regards,
Bogdan Dobrelya,
Irc #bogdando


From fdelicato at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 17:27:48 2018
From: fdelicato at gmail.com (Flavia Delicato)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 14:27:48 -0300
Subject: [Edge-computing] [tripleo][FEMDC] IEEE Fog Computing: Call for
 Contributions - Deadline Approaching
In-Reply-To: <d219c20e-787e-0946-f1e5-da595927437a@redhat.com>
References: <CAKe3RKoGZ+ejL-mfhB1dAROkKC=OBbf2b8kizQHJw3GJUzWqcw@mail.gmail.com>
 <53cf2d33-cee7-3f0d-7f28-74b29091a7ef@redhat.com>
 <8acb2f9e-9fbd-77be-a274-eb3d54ae2ab4@redhat.com>
 <B0E8D7E2-67A5-4465-B7EE-ACA82E1B787B@gmail.com>
 <d219c20e-787e-0946-f1e5-da595927437a@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <CAKe3RKrQZM6vQDRw4R6F6e5U2Fy964zhU+S=2aYWeXEgqNhbBg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bogdan
sorry for the late reply - yesterday was a Holiday here in Brazil!
I am afraid I will not be able to engage in this collaboration with
such a short time...we had to have started this initiative a little
earlier...
As for working collaboratively with latex, I would recommend using
overleaf - it is not that difficult and has lots of edition resources
as markdown and track changes, for instance.
Thanks and good luck!
Flavia
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:33 PM Bogdan Dobrelya <bdobreli at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hello folks.
> Here is an update for today. I crated a draft [0], and spend some time
> with building LaTeX with live-updating for the compiled PDF... The
> latter is only informational, if someone wants to contribute, please
> follow the instructions listed by the link (hint: you need no to have
> any LaTeX experience, only basic markdown knowledge should be enough!)
>
> [0]
> https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/#in-the-current-development-looking-for-co-authors
>
> On 10/31/18 6:54 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thank you for sharing your proposal.
> >
> > I think this is a very interesting topic with a list of possible solutions some of which this group is also discussing. It would also be great to learn more about the IEEE activities and have experience about the process in this group on the way forward.
> >
> > I personally do not have experience with IEEE conferences, but I’m happy to help with the paper if I can.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ildikó
> >
> >
>
> (added from the parallel thread)
> >> On 2018. Oct 31., at 19:11, Mike Bayer <mike_mp at zzzcomputing.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:57 AM Bogdan Dobrelya <bdobreli at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> (cross-posting openstack-dev)
> >>>
> >>> Hello.
> >>> [tl;dr] I'm looking for co-author(s) to come up with "Edge clouds data
> >>> consistency requirements and challenges" a position paper [0] (papers
> >>> submitting deadline is Nov 8).
> >>>
> >>> The problem scope is synchronizing control plane and/or
> >>> deployments-specific data (not necessary limited to OpenStack) across
> >>> remote Edges and central Edge and management site(s). Including the same
> >>> aspects for overclouds and undercloud(s), in terms of TripleO; and other
> >>> deployment tools of your choice.
> >>>
> >>> Another problem is to not go into different solutions for Edge
> >>> deployments management and control planes of edges. And for tenants as
> >>> well, if we think of tenants also doing Edge deployments based on Edge
> >>> Data Replication as a Service, say for Kubernetes/OpenShift on top of
> >>> OpenStack.
> >>>
> >>> So the paper should name the outstanding problems, define data
> >>> consistency requirements and pose possible solutions for synchronization
> >>> and conflicts resolving. Having maximum autonomy cases supported for
> >>> isolated sites, with a capability to eventually catch up its distributed
> >>> state. Like global database [1], or something different perhaps (see
> >>> causal-real-time consistency model [2],[3]), or even using git. And
> >>> probably more than that?.. (looking for ideas)
> >>
> >>
> >> I can offer detail on whatever aspects of the "shared  / global
> >> database" idea.  The way we're doing it with Galera for now is all
> >> about something simple and modestly effective for the moment, but it
> >> doesn't have any of the hallmarks of a long-term, canonical solution,
> >> because Galera is not well suited towards being present on many
> >> (dozens) of endpoints.     The concept that the StarlingX folks were
> >> talking about, that of independent databases that are synchronized
> >> using some kind of middleware is potentially more scalable, however I
> >> think the best approach would be API-level replication, that is, you
> >> have a bunch of Keystone services and there is a process that is
> >> regularly accessing the APIs of these keystone services and
> >> cross-publishing state amongst all of them.   Clearly the big
> >> challenge with that is how to resolve conflicts, I think the answer
> >> would lie in the fact that the data being replicated would be of
> >> limited scope and potentially consist of mostly or fully
> >> non-overlapping records.
> >>
> >> That is, I think "global database" is a cheap way to get what would be
> >> more effective as asynchronous state synchronization between identity
> >> services.
> >
> > Recently we’ve been also exploring federation with an IdP (Identity Provider) master: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone_edge_architectures#Identity_Provider_.28IdP.29_Master_with_shadow_users
> >
> > One of the pros is that it removes the need for synchronization and potentially increases scalability.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ildikó
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bogdan Dobrelya,
> Irc #bogdando
>
> _______________________________________________
> Edge-computing mailing list
> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org
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-- 
Flávia Delicato

Associate Professor
Federal University of Rio de Janeiro
---


From bdobreli at redhat.com  Mon Nov  5 14:06:34 2018
From: bdobreli at redhat.com (Bogdan Dobrelya)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 15:06:34 +0100
Subject: [Edge-computing] [tripleo][FEMDC] IEEE Fog Computing: Call for
 Contributions - Deadline Approaching
In-Reply-To: <d219c20e-787e-0946-f1e5-da595927437a@redhat.com>
References: <CAKe3RKoGZ+ejL-mfhB1dAROkKC=OBbf2b8kizQHJw3GJUzWqcw@mail.gmail.com>
 <53cf2d33-cee7-3f0d-7f28-74b29091a7ef@redhat.com>
 <8acb2f9e-9fbd-77be-a274-eb3d54ae2ab4@redhat.com>
 <B0E8D7E2-67A5-4465-B7EE-ACA82E1B787B@gmail.com>
 <d219c20e-787e-0946-f1e5-da595927437a@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <39eba4f7-7267-72db-548b-f88dbdcf18e7@redhat.com>

Thank you for a reply, Flavia:

> Hi Bogdan
> sorry for the late reply - yesterday was a Holiday here in Brazil!
> I am afraid I will not be able to engage in this collaboration with
> such a short time...we had to have started this initiative a little
> earlier...

That's understandable.

I hoped though a position paper is something we (all who reads that, not 
just you and me) could achieve in a couple of days, without a lot of 
research associated. That's a postion paper, which is not expected to 
contain formal prove or implementation details. The vision for tooling 
is the hardest part though, and indeed requires some time.

So let me please [tl;dr] the outcome of that position paper:

* position: given Always Available autonomy support as a starting point,
   define invariants for both operational and data storage consistency
   requirements of control/management plane (I've already drafted some in
   [0])

* vision: show that in the end that data synchronization and conflict
   resolving solution just boils down to having a causally
   consistent KVS (either causal+ or causal-RT, or lazy replication
   based, or anything like that), and cannot be achieved with *only*
   transactional distributed database, like Galera cluster. The way how
   to show that is an open question, we could refer to the existing
   papers (COPS, causal-RT, lazy replication et al) and claim they fit
   the defined invariants nicely, while transactional DB cannot fit it
   by design (it's consensus protocols require majority/quorums to
   operate and being always available for data put/write operations).
   We probably may omit proving that obvious thing formally? At least for
   the postion paper...

* opportunity: that is basically designing and implementing of such a
   causally-consistent KVS solution (see COPS library as example) for
   OpenStack, and ideally, unifying it for PaaS operators
   (OpenShift/Kubernetes) and tenants willing to host their containerized
   workloads on PaaS distributed over a Fog Cloud of Edge clouds and
   leverage its data synchronization and conflict resolving solution
   as-a-service. Like Amazon dynamo DB, for example, except that fitting
   the edge cases of another cloud stack :)

[0] 
https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/blob/master/ICFC-2019/challenges.md

> As for working collaboratively with latex, I would recommend using
> overleaf - it is not that difficult and has lots of edition resources
> as markdown and track changes, for instance.
> Thanks and good luck!
> Flavia



On 11/2/18 5:32 PM, Bogdan Dobrelya wrote:
> Hello folks.
> Here is an update for today. I crated a draft [0], and spend some time 
> with building LaTeX with live-updating for the compiled PDF... The 
> latter is only informational, if someone wants to contribute, please 
> follow the instructions listed by the link (hint: you need no to have 
> any LaTeX experience, only basic markdown knowledge should be enough!)
> 
> [0] 
> https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/#in-the-current-development-looking-for-co-authors 
> 
> 
> On 10/31/18 6:54 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thank you for sharing your proposal.
>>
>> I think this is a very interesting topic with a list of possible 
>> solutions some of which this group is also discussing. It would also 
>> be great to learn more about the IEEE activities and have experience 
>> about the process in this group on the way forward.
>>
>> I personally do not have experience with IEEE conferences, but I’m 
>> happy to help with the paper if I can.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ildikó
>>
>>
> 
> (added from the parallel thread)
>>> On 2018. Oct 31., at 19:11, Mike Bayer <mike_mp at zzzcomputing.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:57 AM Bogdan Dobrelya <bdobreli at 
>>> redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (cross-posting openstack-dev)
>>>>
>>>> Hello.
>>>> [tl;dr] I'm looking for co-author(s) to come up with "Edge clouds data
>>>> consistency requirements and challenges" a position paper [0] (papers
>>>> submitting deadline is Nov 8).
>>>>
>>>> The problem scope is synchronizing control plane and/or
>>>> deployments-specific data (not necessary limited to OpenStack) across
>>>> remote Edges and central Edge and management site(s). Including the 
>>>> same
>>>> aspects for overclouds and undercloud(s), in terms of TripleO; and 
>>>> other
>>>> deployment tools of your choice.
>>>>
>>>> Another problem is to not go into different solutions for Edge
>>>> deployments management and control planes of edges. And for tenants as
>>>> well, if we think of tenants also doing Edge deployments based on Edge
>>>> Data Replication as a Service, say for Kubernetes/OpenShift on top of
>>>> OpenStack.
>>>>
>>>> So the paper should name the outstanding problems, define data
>>>> consistency requirements and pose possible solutions for 
>>>> synchronization
>>>> and conflicts resolving. Having maximum autonomy cases supported for
>>>> isolated sites, with a capability to eventually catch up its 
>>>> distributed
>>>> state. Like global database [1], or something different perhaps (see
>>>> causal-real-time consistency model [2],[3]), or even using git. And
>>>> probably more than that?.. (looking for ideas)
>>>
>>>
>>> I can offer detail on whatever aspects of the "shared  / global
>>> database" idea.  The way we're doing it with Galera for now is all
>>> about something simple and modestly effective for the moment, but it
>>> doesn't have any of the hallmarks of a long-term, canonical solution,
>>> because Galera is not well suited towards being present on many
>>> (dozens) of endpoints.     The concept that the StarlingX folks were
>>> talking about, that of independent databases that are synchronized
>>> using some kind of middleware is potentially more scalable, however I
>>> think the best approach would be API-level replication, that is, you
>>> have a bunch of Keystone services and there is a process that is
>>> regularly accessing the APIs of these keystone services and
>>> cross-publishing state amongst all of them.   Clearly the big
>>> challenge with that is how to resolve conflicts, I think the answer
>>> would lie in the fact that the data being replicated would be of
>>> limited scope and potentially consist of mostly or fully
>>> non-overlapping records.
>>>
>>> That is, I think "global database" is a cheap way to get what would be
>>> more effective as asynchronous state synchronization between identity
>>> services.
>>
>> Recently we’ve been also exploring federation with an IdP (Identity 
>> Provider) master: 
>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone_edge_architectures#Identity_Provider_.28IdP.29_Master_with_shadow_users 
>>
>>
>> One of the pros is that it removes the need for synchronization and 
>> potentially increases scalability.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ildikó
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Best regards,
Bogdan Dobrelya,
Irc #bogdando


From bdobreli at redhat.com  Mon Nov  5 17:50:32 2018
From: bdobreli at redhat.com (Bogdan Dobrelya)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 18:50:32 +0100
Subject: [Edge-computing] [tripleo][FEMDC] IEEE Fog Computing: Call for
 Contributions - Deadline Approaching
In-Reply-To: <39eba4f7-7267-72db-548b-f88dbdcf18e7@redhat.com>
References: <CAKe3RKoGZ+ejL-mfhB1dAROkKC=OBbf2b8kizQHJw3GJUzWqcw@mail.gmail.com>
 <53cf2d33-cee7-3f0d-7f28-74b29091a7ef@redhat.com>
 <8acb2f9e-9fbd-77be-a274-eb3d54ae2ab4@redhat.com>
 <B0E8D7E2-67A5-4465-B7EE-ACA82E1B787B@gmail.com>
 <d219c20e-787e-0946-f1e5-da595927437a@redhat.com>
 <39eba4f7-7267-72db-548b-f88dbdcf18e7@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <7e97e280-78e4-fe72-7068-49c981d84048@redhat.com>

Update: I have yet found co-authors, I'll keep drafting that position 
paper [0],[1]. Just did some baby steps so far. I'm open for feedback 
and contributions!

PS. Deadline is Nov 9 03:00 UTC, but *may be* it will be extended, if 
the event chairs decide to do so. Fingers crossed.

[0] 
https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee#in-the-current-development-looking-for-co-authors

[1] 
https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/blob/master/ICFC-2019/LaTeX/position_paper_1570506394.pdf

On 11/5/18 3:06 PM, Bogdan Dobrelya wrote:
> Thank you for a reply, Flavia:
> 
>> Hi Bogdan
>> sorry for the late reply - yesterday was a Holiday here in Brazil!
>> I am afraid I will not be able to engage in this collaboration with
>> such a short time...we had to have started this initiative a little
>> earlier...
> 
> That's understandable.
> 
> I hoped though a position paper is something we (all who reads that, not 
> just you and me) could achieve in a couple of days, without a lot of 
> research associated. That's a postion paper, which is not expected to 
> contain formal prove or implementation details. The vision for tooling 
> is the hardest part though, and indeed requires some time.
> 
> So let me please [tl;dr] the outcome of that position paper:
> 
> * position: given Always Available autonomy support as a starting point,
>    define invariants for both operational and data storage consistency
>    requirements of control/management plane (I've already drafted some in
>    [0])
> 
> * vision: show that in the end that data synchronization and conflict
>    resolving solution just boils down to having a causally
>    consistent KVS (either causal+ or causal-RT, or lazy replication
>    based, or anything like that), and cannot be achieved with *only*
>    transactional distributed database, like Galera cluster. The way how
>    to show that is an open question, we could refer to the existing
>    papers (COPS, causal-RT, lazy replication et al) and claim they fit
>    the defined invariants nicely, while transactional DB cannot fit it
>    by design (it's consensus protocols require majority/quorums to
>    operate and being always available for data put/write operations).
>    We probably may omit proving that obvious thing formally? At least for
>    the postion paper...
> 
> * opportunity: that is basically designing and implementing of such a
>    causally-consistent KVS solution (see COPS library as example) for
>    OpenStack, and ideally, unifying it for PaaS operators
>    (OpenShift/Kubernetes) and tenants willing to host their containerized
>    workloads on PaaS distributed over a Fog Cloud of Edge clouds and
>    leverage its data synchronization and conflict resolving solution
>    as-a-service. Like Amazon dynamo DB, for example, except that fitting
>    the edge cases of another cloud stack :)
> 
> [0] 
> https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/blob/master/ICFC-2019/challenges.md
> 
>> As for working collaboratively with latex, I would recommend using
>> overleaf - it is not that difficult and has lots of edition resources
>> as markdown and track changes, for instance.
>> Thanks and good luck!
>> Flavia
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/2/18 5:32 PM, Bogdan Dobrelya wrote:
>> Hello folks.
>> Here is an update for today. I crated a draft [0], and spend some time 
>> with building LaTeX with live-updating for the compiled PDF... The 
>> latter is only informational, if someone wants to contribute, please 
>> follow the instructions listed by the link (hint: you need no to have 
>> any LaTeX experience, only basic markdown knowledge should be enough!)
>>
>> [0] 
>> https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/#in-the-current-development-looking-for-co-authors 
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/18 6:54 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thank you for sharing your proposal.
>>>
>>> I think this is a very interesting topic with a list of possible 
>>> solutions some of which this group is also discussing. It would also 
>>> be great to learn more about the IEEE activities and have experience 
>>> about the process in this group on the way forward.
>>>
>>> I personally do not have experience with IEEE conferences, but I’m 
>>> happy to help with the paper if I can.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ildikó
>>>
>>>
>>
>> (added from the parallel thread)
>>>> On 2018. Oct 31., at 19:11, Mike Bayer <mike_mp at zzzcomputing.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:57 AM Bogdan Dobrelya <bdobreli at 
>>>> redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (cross-posting openstack-dev)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello.
>>>>> [tl;dr] I'm looking for co-author(s) to come up with "Edge clouds data
>>>>> consistency requirements and challenges" a position paper [0] (papers
>>>>> submitting deadline is Nov 8).
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem scope is synchronizing control plane and/or
>>>>> deployments-specific data (not necessary limited to OpenStack) across
>>>>> remote Edges and central Edge and management site(s). Including the 
>>>>> same
>>>>> aspects for overclouds and undercloud(s), in terms of TripleO; and 
>>>>> other
>>>>> deployment tools of your choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another problem is to not go into different solutions for Edge
>>>>> deployments management and control planes of edges. And for tenants as
>>>>> well, if we think of tenants also doing Edge deployments based on Edge
>>>>> Data Replication as a Service, say for Kubernetes/OpenShift on top of
>>>>> OpenStack.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the paper should name the outstanding problems, define data
>>>>> consistency requirements and pose possible solutions for 
>>>>> synchronization
>>>>> and conflicts resolving. Having maximum autonomy cases supported for
>>>>> isolated sites, with a capability to eventually catch up its 
>>>>> distributed
>>>>> state. Like global database [1], or something different perhaps (see
>>>>> causal-real-time consistency model [2],[3]), or even using git. And
>>>>> probably more than that?.. (looking for ideas)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can offer detail on whatever aspects of the "shared  / global
>>>> database" idea.  The way we're doing it with Galera for now is all
>>>> about something simple and modestly effective for the moment, but it
>>>> doesn't have any of the hallmarks of a long-term, canonical solution,
>>>> because Galera is not well suited towards being present on many
>>>> (dozens) of endpoints.     The concept that the StarlingX folks were
>>>> talking about, that of independent databases that are synchronized
>>>> using some kind of middleware is potentially more scalable, however I
>>>> think the best approach would be API-level replication, that is, you
>>>> have a bunch of Keystone services and there is a process that is
>>>> regularly accessing the APIs of these keystone services and
>>>> cross-publishing state amongst all of them.   Clearly the big
>>>> challenge with that is how to resolve conflicts, I think the answer
>>>> would lie in the fact that the data being replicated would be of
>>>> limited scope and potentially consist of mostly or fully
>>>> non-overlapping records.
>>>>
>>>> That is, I think "global database" is a cheap way to get what would be
>>>> more effective as asynchronous state synchronization between identity
>>>> services.
>>>
>>> Recently we’ve been also exploring federation with an IdP (Identity 
>>> Provider) master: 
>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone_edge_architectures#Identity_Provider_.28IdP.29_Master_with_shadow_users 
>>>
>>>
>>> One of the pros is that it removes the need for synchronization and 
>>> potentially increases scalability.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ildikó
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 


-- 
Best regards,
Bogdan Dobrelya,
Irc #bogdando


From Greg.Waines at windriver.com  Mon Nov  5 20:08:21 2018
From: Greg.Waines at windriver.com (Waines, Greg)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 20:08:21 +0000
Subject: [Edge-computing] Meeting this week ?  Tues Nov. 6 ?
Message-ID: <957FB3DC-3AB8-4341-9335-4CE40CF6626F@windriver.com>

Ildiko,

I’ve missed the last couple of meetings.
Is there a meeting planned for tomorrow  (Tues Nov. 6 ... 10am EST ) ?
( The next meeting on the wiki is still saying Thursday Nov. 1 )

Let us know,
Greg.

From: Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko at openstack.org>
Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 3:38 PM
To: edge-computing <edge-computing at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: [Edge-computing] Announcing the First Release of StarlingX, an open source edge computing platform

Hi,

You may have heard, StarlingX[1] is a new independent, top-level, open source pilot project that's supported by the OpenStack Foundation. StarlingX joins other pilot projects hosted at OpenStack Foundation[2], including Airship, Kata Containers and Zuul.

Today the first release of StarlingX is here!

We invite you to participate in getting the word out that the release is ready and that we’re eager to welcome more contributors to this project.

Learn more about it:
                • Read more about the project at starlingx.io
                • Listen to a recording of the onboarding webinar[3]
                • On-boarding slide deck[4]
                • Overview document[5]

Some things you can share:
                • A blog on starlingx.io[6]
                • Social sharing: Announcements on Twitter[7]

Want to get involved in the community?
                • Mailing Lists[8]
                • Weekly Calls[9]
                • Freenode IRC: #starlingx channel[10]

Ready to dive into the code?
                • You can get download the first release at git.starlingx.io
                • StarlingX Install Guide[11]
                • StarlingX Developer Guide[12]

If you’re at the Berlin Summit November 13-15[13]:
Tuesday 11/13
                • StarlingX – Project update – 6 months in the life of a new Open Source project with Brent Rowsell & Dean Troyer
                • StarlingX CI, from zero to Zuul with Hazzim Anaya & Elio Martinez

Wednesday 11/14
                • Keynote spotlight on the main stage with Ian Jolliffe & Dean Troyer
                • MVP (Minimum Viable Product) architecture for edge - Forum session
                • "Ask Me Anything" about StarlingX - Forum session
                • StarlingX Enhancements for Edge Networking presentation with Kailun Qin, Ruijing Guo & Dan Chen
                • Project Onboarding session with Greg Waines
                • Integrating IOT Device Management with the Edge Cloud - Forum session

Thursday 11/15
                • Containerized Applications' Requirements on Kubernetes Cluster at the Edge - Forum session

Check out the materials to learn about the project, try out the software and join the community! We hope to see many of you in Berlin!

Ildikó

[1] https://www.starlingx.io/
[2] https://www.openstack.org/foundation/
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9uwGnKD6tM&t=232s
[4] https://www.starlingx.io/collateral/StarlingX-Onboarding-Deck-Web.pdf
[5] https://www.starlingx.io/collateral/StarlingX_OnePager_Web-102318pdf/
[6] https://www.starlingx.io/blog/starlingx-initial-release.html
[7] https://twitter.com/starlingx
[8] http://lists.starlingx.io/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
[9] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Starlingx/Meetings
[10] https://freenode.net/
[11] https://docs.starlingx.io/installation_guide/index.html
[12] https://docs.starlingx.io/developer_guide/index.html
[13] https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018



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From ildiko at openstack.org  Mon Nov  5 20:21:37 2018
From: ildiko at openstack.org (Ildiko Vancsa)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 21:21:37 +0100
Subject: [Edge-computing] Meeting this week ?  Tues Nov. 6 ?
In-Reply-To: <957FB3DC-3AB8-4341-9335-4CE40CF6626F@windriver.com>
References: <957FB3DC-3AB8-4341-9335-4CE40CF6626F@windriver.com>
Message-ID: <0C2BBA2C-2852-43D0-9361-0917DDFA8047@openstack.org>

Hi Greg,

Yes, there is a call tomorrow a(November 6) at 7am Pacific / 10am Eastern / 1500 UTC. I’ve just updated the wiki[1], thanks for reminding!

Best Regards,
Ildikó

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group#Meetings


> On 2018. Nov 5., at 21:08, Waines, Greg <Greg.Waines at windriver.com> wrote:
> 
> Ildiko, 
>  
> I’ve missed the last couple of meetings.
> Is there a meeting planned for tomorrow  (Tues Nov. 6 ... 10am EST ) ?
> ( The next meeting on the wiki is still saying Thursday Nov. 1 )
>  
> Let us know,
> Greg.
>  
> From: Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko at openstack.org>
> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 3:38 PM
> To: edge-computing <edge-computing at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: [Edge-computing] Announcing the First Release of StarlingX, an open source edge computing platform
>  
> Hi,
>  
> You may have heard, StarlingX[1] is a new independent, top-level, open source pilot project that's supported by the OpenStack Foundation. StarlingX joins other pilot projects hosted at OpenStack Foundation[2], including Airship, Kata Containers and Zuul.
>  
> Today the first release of StarlingX is here!
>  
> We invite you to participate in getting the word out that the release is ready and that we’re eager to welcome more contributors to this project.
>  
> Learn more about it:
>                 • Read more about the project at starlingx.io
>                 • Listen to a recording of the onboarding webinar[3]
>                 • On-boarding slide deck[4]
>                 • Overview document[5]
>  
> Some things you can share:
>                 • A blog on starlingx.io[6]
>                 • Social sharing: Announcements on Twitter[7]
>  
> Want to get involved in the community?
>                 • Mailing Lists[8]
>                 • Weekly Calls[9]
>                 • Freenode IRC: #starlingx channel[10]
>  
> Ready to dive into the code?
>                 • You can get download the first release at git.starlingx.io
>                 • StarlingX Install Guide[11]
>                 • StarlingX Developer Guide[12]
>  
> If you’re at the Berlin Summit November 13-15[13]:
> Tuesday 11/13
>                 • StarlingX – Project update – 6 months in the life of a new Open Source project with Brent Rowsell & Dean Troyer
>                 • StarlingX CI, from zero to Zuul with Hazzim Anaya & Elio Martinez
>  
> Wednesday 11/14 
>                 • Keynote spotlight on the main stage with Ian Jolliffe & Dean Troyer
>                 • MVP (Minimum Viable Product) architecture for edge - Forum session
>                 • "Ask Me Anything" about StarlingX - Forum session
>                 • StarlingX Enhancements for Edge Networking presentation with Kailun Qin, Ruijing Guo & Dan Chen
>                 • Project Onboarding session with Greg Waines
>                 • Integrating IOT Device Management with the Edge Cloud - Forum session
>  
> Thursday 11/15
>                 • Containerized Applications' Requirements on Kubernetes Cluster at the Edge - Forum session
>  
> Check out the materials to learn about the project, try out the software and join the community! We hope to see many of you in Berlin!
>  
> Ildikó
>  
> [1] https://www.starlingx.io/
> [2] https://www.openstack.org/foundation/
> [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9uwGnKD6tM&t=232s
> [4] https://www.starlingx.io/collateral/StarlingX-Onboarding-Deck-Web.pdf
> [5] https://www.starlingx.io/collateral/StarlingX_OnePager_Web-102318pdf/
> [6] https://www.starlingx.io/blog/starlingx-initial-release.html
> [7] https://twitter.com/starlingx
> [8] http://lists.starlingx.io/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
> [9] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Starlingx/Meetings
> [10] https://freenode.net/
> [11] https://docs.starlingx.io/installation_guide/index.html
> [12] https://docs.starlingx.io/developer_guide/index.html
> [13] https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018
>  
>  
>  
> _______________________________________________
> Edge-computing mailing list
> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing



From bdobreli at redhat.com  Tue Nov  6 17:44:42 2018
From: bdobreli at redhat.com (Bogdan Dobrelya)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:44:42 +0100
Subject: [Edge-computing] [tripleo][FEMDC] IEEE Fog Computing: Call for
 Contributions - Deadline Approaching
In-Reply-To: <7e97e280-78e4-fe72-7068-49c981d84048@redhat.com>
References: <CAKe3RKoGZ+ejL-mfhB1dAROkKC=OBbf2b8kizQHJw3GJUzWqcw@mail.gmail.com>
 <53cf2d33-cee7-3f0d-7f28-74b29091a7ef@redhat.com>
 <8acb2f9e-9fbd-77be-a274-eb3d54ae2ab4@redhat.com>
 <B0E8D7E2-67A5-4465-B7EE-ACA82E1B787B@gmail.com>
 <d219c20e-787e-0946-f1e5-da595927437a@redhat.com>
 <39eba4f7-7267-72db-548b-f88dbdcf18e7@redhat.com>
 <7e97e280-78e4-fe72-7068-49c981d84048@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <a36e8aa6-6fce-07f2-2e8a-c464d0175cdc@redhat.com>

Folks, I have drafted a few more sections [0] for your /proof reading 
and kind review please. Also left some notes for TBD things, either for 
the potential co-authors' attention or myself :)

[0] 
https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/blob/master/ICFC-2019/LaTeX/position_paper_1570506394.pdf

On 11/5/18 6:50 PM, Bogdan Dobrelya wrote:
> Update: I have yet found co-authors, I'll keep drafting that position 
> paper [0],[1]. Just did some baby steps so far. I'm open for feedback 
> and contributions!
> 
> PS. Deadline is Nov 9 03:00 UTC, but *may be* it will be extended, if 
> the event chairs decide to do so. Fingers crossed.
> 
> [0] 
> https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee#in-the-current-development-looking-for-co-authors 
> 
> 
> [1] 
> https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/blob/master/ICFC-2019/LaTeX/position_paper_1570506394.pdf 
> 
> 
> On 11/5/18 3:06 PM, Bogdan Dobrelya wrote:
>> Thank you for a reply, Flavia:
>>
>>> Hi Bogdan
>>> sorry for the late reply - yesterday was a Holiday here in Brazil!
>>> I am afraid I will not be able to engage in this collaboration with
>>> such a short time...we had to have started this initiative a little
>>> earlier...
>>
>> That's understandable.
>>
>> I hoped though a position paper is something we (all who reads that, 
>> not just you and me) could achieve in a couple of days, without a lot 
>> of research associated. That's a postion paper, which is not expected 
>> to contain formal prove or implementation details. The vision for 
>> tooling is the hardest part though, and indeed requires some time.
>>
>> So let me please [tl;dr] the outcome of that position paper:
>>
>> * position: given Always Available autonomy support as a starting point,
>>    define invariants for both operational and data storage consistency
>>    requirements of control/management plane (I've already drafted some in
>>    [0])
>>
>> * vision: show that in the end that data synchronization and conflict
>>    resolving solution just boils down to having a causally
>>    consistent KVS (either causal+ or causal-RT, or lazy replication
>>    based, or anything like that), and cannot be achieved with *only*
>>    transactional distributed database, like Galera cluster. The way how
>>    to show that is an open question, we could refer to the existing
>>    papers (COPS, causal-RT, lazy replication et al) and claim they fit
>>    the defined invariants nicely, while transactional DB cannot fit it
>>    by design (it's consensus protocols require majority/quorums to
>>    operate and being always available for data put/write operations).
>>    We probably may omit proving that obvious thing formally? At least for
>>    the postion paper...
>>
>> * opportunity: that is basically designing and implementing of such a
>>    causally-consistent KVS solution (see COPS library as example) for
>>    OpenStack, and ideally, unifying it for PaaS operators
>>    (OpenShift/Kubernetes) and tenants willing to host their containerized
>>    workloads on PaaS distributed over a Fog Cloud of Edge clouds and
>>    leverage its data synchronization and conflict resolving solution
>>    as-a-service. Like Amazon dynamo DB, for example, except that fitting
>>    the edge cases of another cloud stack :)
>>
>> [0] 
>> https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/blob/master/ICFC-2019/challenges.md 
>>
>>
>>> As for working collaboratively with latex, I would recommend using
>>> overleaf - it is not that difficult and has lots of edition resources
>>> as markdown and track changes, for instance.
>>> Thanks and good luck!
>>> Flavia
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/2/18 5:32 PM, Bogdan Dobrelya wrote:
>>> Hello folks.
>>> Here is an update for today. I crated a draft [0], and spend some 
>>> time with building LaTeX with live-updating for the compiled PDF... 
>>> The latter is only informational, if someone wants to contribute, 
>>> please follow the instructions listed by the link (hint: you need no 
>>> to have any LaTeX experience, only basic markdown knowledge should be 
>>> enough!)
>>>
>>> [0] 
>>> https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/#in-the-current-development-looking-for-co-authors 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/18 6:54 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for sharing your proposal.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a very interesting topic with a list of possible 
>>>> solutions some of which this group is also discussing. It would also 
>>>> be great to learn more about the IEEE activities and have experience 
>>>> about the process in this group on the way forward.
>>>>
>>>> I personally do not have experience with IEEE conferences, but I’m 
>>>> happy to help with the paper if I can.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ildikó
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> (added from the parallel thread)
>>>>> On 2018. Oct 31., at 19:11, Mike Bayer <mike_mp at 
>>>>> zzzcomputing.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:57 AM Bogdan Dobrelya <bdobreli at 
>>>>> redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (cross-posting openstack-dev)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>> [tl;dr] I'm looking for co-author(s) to come up with "Edge clouds 
>>>>>> data
>>>>>> consistency requirements and challenges" a position paper [0] (papers
>>>>>> submitting deadline is Nov 8).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem scope is synchronizing control plane and/or
>>>>>> deployments-specific data (not necessary limited to OpenStack) across
>>>>>> remote Edges and central Edge and management site(s). Including 
>>>>>> the same
>>>>>> aspects for overclouds and undercloud(s), in terms of TripleO; and 
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> deployment tools of your choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another problem is to not go into different solutions for Edge
>>>>>> deployments management and control planes of edges. And for 
>>>>>> tenants as
>>>>>> well, if we think of tenants also doing Edge deployments based on 
>>>>>> Edge
>>>>>> Data Replication as a Service, say for Kubernetes/OpenShift on top of
>>>>>> OpenStack.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the paper should name the outstanding problems, define data
>>>>>> consistency requirements and pose possible solutions for 
>>>>>> synchronization
>>>>>> and conflicts resolving. Having maximum autonomy cases supported for
>>>>>> isolated sites, with a capability to eventually catch up its 
>>>>>> distributed
>>>>>> state. Like global database [1], or something different perhaps (see
>>>>>> causal-real-time consistency model [2],[3]), or even using git. And
>>>>>> probably more than that?.. (looking for ideas)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can offer detail on whatever aspects of the "shared  / global
>>>>> database" idea.  The way we're doing it with Galera for now is all
>>>>> about something simple and modestly effective for the moment, but it
>>>>> doesn't have any of the hallmarks of a long-term, canonical solution,
>>>>> because Galera is not well suited towards being present on many
>>>>> (dozens) of endpoints.     The concept that the StarlingX folks were
>>>>> talking about, that of independent databases that are synchronized
>>>>> using some kind of middleware is potentially more scalable, however I
>>>>> think the best approach would be API-level replication, that is, you
>>>>> have a bunch of Keystone services and there is a process that is
>>>>> regularly accessing the APIs of these keystone services and
>>>>> cross-publishing state amongst all of them.   Clearly the big
>>>>> challenge with that is how to resolve conflicts, I think the answer
>>>>> would lie in the fact that the data being replicated would be of
>>>>> limited scope and potentially consist of mostly or fully
>>>>> non-overlapping records.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is, I think "global database" is a cheap way to get what would be
>>>>> more effective as asynchronous state synchronization between identity
>>>>> services.
>>>>
>>>> Recently we’ve been also exploring federation with an IdP (Identity 
>>>> Provider) master: 
>>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone_edge_architectures#Identity_Provider_.28IdP.29_Master_with_shadow_users 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One of the pros is that it removes the need for synchronization and 
>>>> potentially increases scalability.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ildikó
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 


-- 
Best regards,
Bogdan Dobrelya,
Irc #bogdando


From bdobreli at redhat.com  Thu Nov  8 17:58:50 2018
From: bdobreli at redhat.com (Bogdan Dobrelya)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 18:58:50 +0100
Subject: [Edge-computing] [openstack-dev] [tripleo][FEMDC] IEEE Fog
 Computing: Call for Contributions - Deadline Approaching
Message-ID: <5d1b7e47-ebd9-089e-30e9-15464ae6e49b@redhat.com>

Hi folks.
The deadline for papers seems to be extended till Nov 17, so that's a 
great news!
I finished drafting the position paper [0],[1].

Please /proof read and review. There is also open questions placed there 
and it would be really nice to have a co-author here for any of those 
items remaining...

I'm also looking for some help with... **uploading PDF** to EDAS system! 
:) It throws on me:
  pdf	notstampable	The PDF file is not compliant with PDF standards and 
cannot be stamped (see FAQ)...

And FAQ says:

> "First, try using the most current version of dvipdf for LaTeX or the most current version of Word. You can also distill the file by using Acrobat (Pro, not Acrobat Reader):
> * Open the PDF file in Acrobat Pro;
> * Go to the File Menu > Save As or File > Export To... (in Adobe DC Pro) or File > Save As Other... > More Options > Postscript (in Adobe Pro version 11)
> * Give the file a new name (do not overwrite the original file);
> * Under "Save As Type", choose "PostScript File (*.ps)"
> * Open Distiller and browse for this file or go to the directory where the file exists and double click on the file - this will open and run Distiller and regenerate the PDF file.
> 
> If you do not have Acrobat Pro, you can also try to save the PostScript version via Apple Preview, using the "Print..." menu and the "PDF v" selector in the lower left hand corner to pick "Save as PostScript...". Unfortunately, Apple Preview saves PDF files as version 1.3, which is not acceptable to PDF Xpress, but tools such as docupub appear to produce compliant PDF."


I have yet tried those MS word/adobe pro and distutils dances ( I think 
I should try that as well... ), but neither docupub [2] nor dvipdf(m) 
for LaTeX helped to produce a pdf edas can eat :-(

[0] 
https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/blob/master/ICFC-2019/LaTeX/position_paper_1570506394.pdf
[1] 
https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/blob/master/ICFC-2019/LaTeX/position_paper_1570506394.tex
[2] https://docupub.com/pdfconvert/


> Folks, I have drafted a few more sections [0] for your /proof reading 
> and kind review please. Also left some notes for TBD things, either for 
> the potential co-authors' attention or myself :)
> 
> [0] 
> https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/blob/master/ICFC-2019/LaTeX/position_paper_1570506394.pdf


-- 
Best regards,
Bogdan Dobrelya,
Irc #bogdando


From bdobreli at redhat.com  Fri Nov 16 16:11:43 2018
From: bdobreli at redhat.com (Bogdan Dobrelya)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:11:43 +0100
Subject: [Edge-computing] [openstack-dev] [tripleo][FEMDC] IEEE Fog
 Computing: Call for Contributions - Deadline Approaching
In-Reply-To: <5d1b7e47-ebd9-089e-30e9-15464ae6e49b@redhat.com>
References: <5d1b7e47-ebd9-089e-30e9-15464ae6e49b@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <220a9ac3-fa24-3791-f30c-faf77b96c70f@redhat.com>

Hello.
The final version of the position paper "Edge Clouds Multiple Control
Planes Data Replication Challenges" [0],[1] drafted, and have been 
uploaded to EDAS. The deadline expires today and I'm afraid there is no 
time left for more of amendments. Thank you all for reviews and inputs, 
and those edge sessions at the summit in Berlin were really mind opening!

PS. I wish I could have kept working on that draft while was attending 
the summit, but that was not the case :)

[0] 
https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/blob/master/ICFC-2019/LaTeX/position_paper_1570506394.pdf
[1] 
https://github.com/bogdando/papers-ieee/blob/master/ICFC-2019/LaTeX/position_paper_1570506394.tex

On 11/8/18 6:58 PM, Bogdan Dobrelya wrote:
> Hi folks.
> The deadline for papers seems to be extended till Nov 17, so that's a 
> great news!
> I finished drafting the position paper [0],[1].
> 
> Please /proof read and review. There is also open questions placed there 
> and it would be really nice to have a co-author here for any of those 
> items remaining...
> 
>...


-- 
Best regards,
Bogdan Dobrelya,
Irc #bogdando


From ildiko at openstack.org  Tue Nov 20 14:27:29 2018
From: ildiko at openstack.org (Ildiko Vancsa)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:27:29 +0100
Subject: [Edge-computing] Meeting reminder
Message-ID: <3E995DD4-315B-4CA5-A02E-14155BD8C0BD@openstack.org>

Hi,

Just a friendly reminder that we have our weekly call in a half an hour at 1500 UTC.

Meeting agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group#Agenda

Zoom dial-in link: https://zoom.us/j/879678938

Thanks,
Ildikó




From gfidente at redhat.com  Tue Nov 20 14:57:48 2018
From: gfidente at redhat.com (Giulio Fidente)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:57:48 +0100
Subject: [Edge-computing] Meeting reminder
In-Reply-To: <3E995DD4-315B-4CA5-A02E-14155BD8C0BD@openstack.org>
References: <3E995DD4-315B-4CA5-A02E-14155BD8C0BD@openstack.org>
Message-ID: <0a4e86b8-dec7-6533-59d1-aeb142abc60a@redhat.com>

On 11/20/18 3:27 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just a friendly reminder that we have our weekly call in a half an hour at 1500 UTC.
> 
> Meeting agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group#Agenda
> 
> Zoom dial-in link: https://zoom.us/j/879678938

hello guys,

please don't take me badly but have you thought about moving the meeting
to IRC or over a videoconferencing platform which does not require
installation of closed source software on the clients?

-- 
Giulio Fidente
GPG KEY: 08D733BA


From beth.cohen at verizon.com  Tue Nov 20 15:47:36 2018
From: beth.cohen at verizon.com (beth.cohen at verizon.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:47:36 +0000
Subject: [Edge-computing] [E] Re:  Meeting reminder
In-Reply-To: <0a4e86b8-dec7-6533-59d1-aeb142abc60a@redhat.com>
References: <3E995DD4-315B-4CA5-A02E-14155BD8C0BD@openstack.org>
 <0a4e86b8-dec7-6533-59d1-aeb142abc60a@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <ef1f576973c94da08cd14b003134d15f@scwexch25apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com>

Please do NOT go to IRC.  For the folks that do not have IRC access at work, it means that we will not be able to participate at all.




Beth Cohen
DMTS-  NFV/SDN Network Product Strategy
Verizon Technology

O +781-466-2055 | M +781-434-8553
beth.cohen at verizon.com

    



-----Original Message-----
From: Giulio Fidente [mailto:gfidente at redhat.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:58 AM
To: Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko at openstack.org>; edge-computing <edge-computing at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: [E] Re: [Edge-computing] Meeting reminder

On 11/20/18 3:27 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just a friendly reminder that we have our weekly call in a half an hour at 1500 UTC.
> 
> Meeting agenda is here: 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.openstack.or
> g_wiki_Edge-5FComputing-5FGroup-23Agenda&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UH
> pJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=zSPYRgoBij7eDdloAJpktY4pyBQRGnvgrz_9Wy3fyA
> 4&m=amnPiOZxxuSJrS_0-brSQx6QZhq3ZPgt9JTi4CWpHd8&s=Q_NWwM5tuoS3NSnv_Epk
> Den9ervjQCm4W9aPh-Z84DQ&e=
> 
> Zoom dial-in link: 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__zoom.us_j_8796789
> 38&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=zSPYRgoBij
> 7eDdloAJpktY4pyBQRGnvgrz_9Wy3fyA4&m=amnPiOZxxuSJrS_0-brSQx6QZhq3ZPgt9J
> Ti4CWpHd8&s=iwX18TySt2dsZZEgk1fWRwywkYNNKQ9rUjCbODJcKac&e=

hello guys,

please don't take me badly but have you thought about moving the meeting to IRC or over a videoconferencing platform which does not require installation of closed source software on the clients?

--
Giulio Fidente
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From ildiko at openstack.org  Tue Nov 20 16:52:56 2018
From: ildiko at openstack.org (Ildiko Vancsa)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:52:56 +0100
Subject: [Edge-computing] [E] Re:  Meeting reminder
In-Reply-To: <ef1f576973c94da08cd14b003134d15f@scwexch25apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com>
References: <3E995DD4-315B-4CA5-A02E-14155BD8C0BD@openstack.org>
 <0a4e86b8-dec7-6533-59d1-aeb142abc60a@redhat.com>
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Hi,

We are usually taking notes on the IRC channel (#edge-computing-group) in parallel to the weekly calls on Tuesdays so you can follow the discussions there and ask questions and add comments.

We use Zoom similar to a few other open source communities in the ecosystem as it works well and it is easy to share your screen which is not supported by many open tools as far as I know. We also try our best with publishing the recordings, however that is not ideal for participation.

As an alternative you can always dial in to the call from your phone, there are international phone numbers to support that. Please let me know if you need help with that.

Thanks,
Ildikó


> On 2018. Nov 20., at 16:47, beth.cohen at verizon.com wrote:
> 
> Please do NOT go to IRC.  For the folks that do not have IRC access at work, it means that we will not be able to participate at all.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Beth Cohen
> DMTS-  NFV/SDN Network Product Strategy
> Verizon Technology
> 
> O +781-466-2055 | M +781-434-8553
> beth.cohen at verizon.com
> 
>     
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giulio Fidente [mailto:gfidente at redhat.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:58 AM
> To: Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko at openstack.org>; edge-computing <edge-computing at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: [E] Re: [Edge-computing] Meeting reminder
> 
> On 11/20/18 3:27 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just a friendly reminder that we have our weekly call in a half an hour at 1500 UTC.
>> 
>> Meeting agenda is here: 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.openstack.or
>> g_wiki_Edge-5FComputing-5FGroup-23Agenda&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UH
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>> 4&m=amnPiOZxxuSJrS_0-brSQx6QZhq3ZPgt9JTi4CWpHd8&s=Q_NWwM5tuoS3NSnv_Epk
>> Den9ervjQCm4W9aPh-Z84DQ&e=
>> 
>> Zoom dial-in link: 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__zoom.us_j_8796789
>> 38&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=zSPYRgoBij
>> 7eDdloAJpktY4pyBQRGnvgrz_9Wy3fyA4&m=amnPiOZxxuSJrS_0-brSQx6QZhq3ZPgt9J
>> Ti4CWpHd8&s=iwX18TySt2dsZZEgk1fWRwywkYNNKQ9rUjCbODJcKac&e=
> 
> hello guys,
> 
> please don't take me badly but have you thought about moving the meeting to IRC or over a videoconferencing platform which does not require installation of closed source software on the clients?
> 
> --
> Giulio Fidente
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From claire at openstack.org  Tue Nov 20 17:00:52 2018
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:00:52 +0000
Subject: [Edge-computing] Updated invitation: Weekly Edge Computing Group
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From claire at openstack.org  Tue Nov 20 17:01:59 2018
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From claire at openstack.org  Tue Nov 20 17:02:08 2018
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From claire at openstack.org  Tue Nov 20 17:02:41 2018
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From claire at openstack.org  Tue Nov 20 17:03:03 2018
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From claire at openstack.org  Tue Nov 20 17:03:39 2018
From: claire at openstack.org (claire at openstack.org)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:03:39 +0000
Subject: [Edge-computing] Updated invitation: Weekly Edge Computing Group
 Call 7:00am Pacific Timezone @ Weekly from 9am to 10am on Tuesday from Tue
 Nov 6 to Tue May 28, 2019 except Tue Dec 4 9am, Tue Dec 25 9am, Tue Jan 1,
 2019 9am, Tue Feb 5, 2019 9am, Tue Mar 5, 2019 9am, Tue Apr 2,
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This event has been changed.

Title: Weekly Edge Computing Group Call 7:00am Pacific Timezone
Weekly agenda & call notes:  
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group
When: Weekly from 9am to 10am on Tuesday from Tue Nov 6 to Tue May 28, 2019  
except Tue Dec 4 9am, Tue Dec 25 9am, Tue Jan 1, 2019 9am, Tue Feb 5, 2019  
9am, Tue Mar 5, 2019 9am, Tue Apr 2, 2019 9am or Tue May 7, 2019 9am  
Central Time - Chicago (changed)
Where: https://zoom.us/j/879678938
Calendar: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org
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     * claire at openstack.org - organizer
     * edge-computing at lists.openstack.org
     * Ildiko Vancsa

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From claire at openstack.org  Tue Nov 20 17:10:44 2018
From: claire at openstack.org (claire at openstack.org)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:10:44 +0000
Subject: [Edge-computing] Invitation: Weekly Edge Computing Group Call (0700
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From gmerlino at unime.it  Tue Nov 20 20:16:31 2018
From: gmerlino at unime.it (Giovanni Merlino)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:16:31 +0100
Subject: [Edge-computing] [E] Re: Meeting reminder
In-Reply-To: <C4A501DB-F40C-4B1B-8F2C-8BEDEED24C8B@openstack.org>
References: <3E995DD4-315B-4CA5-A02E-14155BD8C0BD@openstack.org>
 <0a4e86b8-dec7-6533-59d1-aeb142abc60a@redhat.com>
 <ef1f576973c94da08cd14b003134d15f@scwexch25apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com>
 <C4A501DB-F40C-4B1B-8F2C-8BEDEED24C8B@openstack.org>
Message-ID: <CA+GfBW+i8QDHUwx6dx734WxeCDVT+BMZF48_Xc_WtNS-O07Gng@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

in case anybody is looking for an open source web-based videoconferencing
alternative, with similar features (e.g., including screen sharing and
phone bridge), have a look at https://meet.jit.si

Cheers,
Giovanni

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 5:53 PM Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko at openstack.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We are usually taking notes on the IRC channel (#edge-computing-group) in
> parallel to the weekly calls on Tuesdays so you can follow the discussions
> there and ask questions and add comments.
>
> We use Zoom similar to a few other open source communities in the
> ecosystem as it works well and it is easy to share your screen which is not
> supported by many open tools as far as I know. We also try our best with
> publishing the recordings, however that is not ideal for participation.
>
> As an alternative you can always dial in to the call from your phone,
> there are international phone numbers to support that. Please let me know
> if you need help with that.
>
> Thanks,
> Ildikó
>
>
> > On 2018. Nov 20., at 16:47, beth.cohen at verizon.com wrote:
> >
> > Please do NOT go to IRC.  For the folks that do not have IRC access at
> work, it means that we will not be able to participate at all.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Beth Cohen
> > DMTS-  NFV/SDN Network Product Strategy
> > Verizon Technology
> >
> > O +781-466-2055 | M +781-434-8553
> > beth.cohen at verizon.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Giulio Fidente [mailto:gfidente at redhat.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:58 AM
> > To: Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko at openstack.org>; edge-computing <
> edge-computing at lists.openstack.org>
> > Subject: [E] Re: [Edge-computing] Meeting reminder
> >
> > On 11/20/18 3:27 PM, Ildiko Vancsa wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Just a friendly reminder that we have our weekly call in a half an hour
> at 1500 UTC.
> >>
> >> Meeting agenda is here:
> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.openstack.or
> >> g_wiki_Edge-5FComputing-5FGroup-23Agenda&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UH
> >> pJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=zSPYRgoBij7eDdloAJpktY4pyBQRGnvgrz_9Wy3fyA
> >> 4&m=amnPiOZxxuSJrS_0-brSQx6QZhq3ZPgt9JTi4CWpHd8&s=Q_NWwM5tuoS3NSnv_Epk
> >> Den9ervjQCm4W9aPh-Z84DQ&e=
> >>
> >> Zoom dial-in link:
> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__zoom.us_j_8796789
> >> 38&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=zSPYRgoBij
> >> 7eDdloAJpktY4pyBQRGnvgrz_9Wy3fyA4&m=amnPiOZxxuSJrS_0-brSQx6QZhq3ZPgt9J
> >> Ti4CWpHd8&s=iwX18TySt2dsZZEgk1fWRwywkYNNKQ9rUjCbODJcKac&e=
> >
> > hello guys,
> >
> > please don't take me badly but have you thought about moving the meeting
> to IRC or over a videoconferencing platform which does not require
> installation of closed source software on the clients?
> >
> > --
> > Giulio Fidente
> > GPG KEY: 08D733BA
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Edge-computing mailing list
> > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.openstack.org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_edge-2Dcomputing&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=zSPYRgoBij7eDdloAJpktY4pyBQRGnvgrz_9Wy3fyA4&m=amnPiOZxxuSJrS_0-brSQx6QZhq3ZPgt9JTi4CWpHd8&s=fbSuD8_X4U8a5BUOcgMkxkMTds9Co7ZIZ0-nTPko9HE&e=
>
>
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