From msd at bu.edu Tue Nov 17 17:00:14 2020 From: msd at bu.edu (Daitzman, Michael S) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 17:00:14 +0000 Subject: [Openinfralabs] Open Infra Labs Meeting Nov 18 Message-ID: Open Infralabs Monitoring Call: November 18, 2020 Time of Weekly Meeting: Wednesdays 9:00 AM to 10:00 AM Boston, MA time (14:00 PM - 15:00 PM GMT). Zoom Call:https://bostonu.zoom.us/j/95680241139?pwd=S01qQjg5MFVCNlR4VFNQVW1MZnBQZz09&from=msft telephone call in info below. Topics: 1. Proposal to move from gitlab to github - 2. Movement to open ops by Mass Open Cloud - what does this mean in real world? 3. Telemetry working group - (tentative topic) - may just be a heads up that this is forming and we will be ccing folks on this meeting and openinfralabs in invitation to kickoff 4. State of CNV cluster 5. Follow up from PTG - help evangelizing - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-ptg-openinfralabs * a. could we identify people to attend other SIG's and * b. what would it take to ride the and run master branch * - building on item 2 above - if we can provide hardware (how much?) could we get involvement to re-create an open ops/telemetry version? Link to this document: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Nov_18_2020Monitoring Proposed Future topics: 1. HPC monitoring solutions getting openstack extensions (planned for NERC)+1 2. Tracing capabilities developed for Chameleon Testbed - possible path to public sharing of metering 3. Stig present info on a similar project he has been involved in - 4. ACM (Advanced Cluster Management-http://shorturl.at/bqx38) +2 - broken link 5. presentation on Wenju (https://gitlab.com/open-infrastructure-labs/wenju) - a project focused on accelerating of production AI 6. A proposal for a tool to allow container users to monitor their usage 7. Argo CD for deploying operations - PTG? 8. Openstack - interest in telemetry - - NERC, etc. roles in PTG - openstack community 9. Adjutant Notes: An Etherpad with links to various useful meeting notes, etc.: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Open_Infra_Labs_Monitoring_Meeting OpenInfraLabs Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9o1FYtFHVzsGRgCSU4lV4g - I am adding videos there instead of gitlab. Please note – updated zoom call in number. Augustine, Kristi and Naved are all alternative hosts if they are logged into their BU Zoom accounts. Time of Weekly Meeting: Wednesdays 9:00 AM to 10:00 AM Boston, MA time (1:00 PM - 2:00 PM GMT). 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URL: From msd at bu.edu Thu Nov 19 03:34:55 2020 From: msd at bu.edu (Daitzman, Michael S) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 03:34:55 +0000 Subject: [Openinfralabs] Proposal: Relocating Open Infra Labs from Gitlab to Github Message-ID: I wanted to have a discussion about relocating our gitlab content to github so that we may better track MOC and OI Labs work on a single project board. Problem Description Historically the Mass Open Cloud repositories have existed github as have the Harvard and BU repositories being used for the NERC. In addition, other team's working on related projects have voiced a preference for github. This creates friction for the dev team's because Open Infra Labs was set up in gitlab and it is, for example, difficult to track the work on a single project board. We have been tracking the details in this ticket: https://github.com/CCI-MOC/ops-issues/issues/39 Proposed solution including issues which need to be resolved We propose relocating open infra labs gitlab content to an Openinfralabs github location. Assuming we move forward we would like to do so before more processes become baked into our use of gitlab. Known issues/steps: • confirm web site may be driven from github and schedule migration • moving content over • import issues - bring over discussions • redirect repositories to github • update openinfralabs web site with links Alternatives & History Some history – initially we created the repository in the opendev and migrated to git in response to feedback from various operators. We chose gitlab at the time because of the perception it is more open then github. Other options: 1. Continue with current state – keeping OpenInfra Labs on gitlab. 2. Migrate MOC/NERC etc. to gitlab. This would be difficult both because of the size of existing repositories, need for retraining and the number of processes already built around the github model. 3. Revisit opendev – at this time it does not address the ease of access issues initially raised by operators. I will summarize this note in irc and point to both the ticket and this email. Thanks! Michael. --- Michael Daitzman (He/Him) msd at bu.edu cell:978-201-9965 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sorry for the confusion I created. --- Michael Daitzman (He/Him) msd at bu.edu cell:978-201-9965 From: Jeremy Stanley Date: Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 9:17 AM To: openinfralabs at lists.opendev.org Subject: Re: [Openinfralabs] Proposal: Relocating Open Infra Labs from Gitlab to Github On 2020-11-19 03:34:55 +0000 (+0000), Daitzman, Michael S wrote: [...] > Some history – initially we created the repository in the opendev > and migrated to git in response to feedback from various > operators. [...] I'm not entirely sure I understand this part. The OpenDev Collaboratory uses Git for revision control, just like Gitlab and GitHub do. -- Jeremy Stanley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From msd at bu.edu Wed Nov 25 22:49:58 2020 From: msd at bu.edu (Daitzman, Michael S) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 22:49:58 +0000 Subject: [Openinfralabs] Open Telemetry Working Group Message-ID: As you may know, the Open Cloud Workshop (formerly Mass Open Cloud Workshop) held in March kicked off a shift to a focus broader than the MOC - a constellation of related projects we’ve started to call the Open Cloud Initiative. Coming out of the Workshop, we established a monthly meeting of representatives from each of the efforts. During these monthly discussions, questions on telemetry became a theme which would be a good area of focus for a working group. We identified two potential leads, Raja Sambasivan, Assistant Professor, Computer Science, Tufts University, and Marcel Hild, Engineering Manager, AI CoE, CTO Office Kiel Area, Red Hat, both of whom accepted our request to lead this working group (Thanks Raja and Marcel!). You are receiving this email because we’d like to invite you to participate in this group. Work has been started on developing a charter and there are lots of ideas on the next steps. We are holding the Telemetry Working Group kick-off meeting on December 8, 2020 from 9:30 - 10:30 AM EST. For now, we will set up the meeting to run bi-weekly. December 8, 2020 Agenda 1. Introductions 2. Charter 3. Logistics The recurring Zoom information for this meeting is: https://bostonu.zoom.us/j/92042192235?pwd=VktYcktHRWphdDVvam84NjF5Tmo1QT09 or use Meeting ID: 920 4219 2235, Passcode: 045484. You will be added to a calendar invite with this information as well. Currently, the charter, agendas and meeting notes can be found here. We know we did not think of everyone we should invite, so if you know someone (or a mailing list or SIG) that would be a great fit - please forward the invitation (coming shortly) and cc Jen Stacy so they may be added to the mailing list. We look forward to the kick-off on December 8. In case some people are unable to attend, we plan to record the meeting and will share the link. Best, Michael Daitzman and Jen Stacy on behalf of Marcel Hild and Raja Sambasivan MOC/Open Cloud Initiative --- Michael Daitzman (He/Him) msd at bu.edu cell:978-201-9965 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From msd at bu.edu Mon Nov 30 19:07:58 2020 From: msd at bu.edu (Daitzman, Michael S) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 19:07:58 +0000 Subject: [Openinfralabs] Open Telemetry Working Group Message-ID: <334DE7B2-958F-4BEE-83ED-C4545698BC64@bu.edu> Post-holiday (sorry, a bit us-centric) reminder! As you may know, the Open Cloud Workshop (formerly Mass Open Cloud Workshop) held in March kicked off a shift to a focus broader than the MOC - a constellation of related projects we’ve started to call the Open Cloud Initiative. Coming out of the Workshop, we established a monthly meeting of representatives from each of the efforts. During these monthly discussions, questions on telemetry became a theme which would be a good area of focus for a working group. We identified two potential leads, Raja Sambasivan, Assistant Professor, Computer Science, Tufts University, and Marcel Hild, Engineering Manager, AI CoE, CTO Office Kiel Area, Red Hat, both of whom accepted our request to lead this working group (Thanks Raja and Marcel!). You are receiving this email because we’d like to invite you to participate in this group. Work has been started on developing a charter and there are lots of ideas on the next steps. We are holding the Telemetry Working Group kick-off meeting on December 8, 2020 from 9:30 - 10:30 AM EST. For now, we will set up the meeting to run bi-weekly. December 8, 2020 Agenda 1. Introductions 2. Charter 3. Logistics The recurring Zoom information for this meeting is: https://bostonu.zoom.us/j/92042192235?pwd=VktYcktHRWphdDVvam84NjF5Tmo1QT09 or use Meeting ID: 920 4219 2235, Passcode: 045484. You will be added to a calendar invite with this information as well. Currently, the charter, agendas and meeting notes can be found here. We know we did not think of everyone we should invite, so if you know someone (or a mailing list or SIG) that would be a great fit - please forward the invitation (coming shortly) and cc Jen Stacy so they may be added to the mailing list. We look forward to the kick-off on December 8. In case some people are unable to attend, we plan to record the meeting and will share the link. Best, Michael Daitzman and Jen Stacy on behalf of Marcel Hild and Raja Sambasivan MOC/Open Cloud Initiative --- Michael Daitzman (He/Him) msd at bu.edu cell:978-201-9965 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fungi at yuggoth.org Mon Nov 30 19:18:08 2020 From: fungi at yuggoth.org (Jeremy Stanley) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 19:18:08 +0000 Subject: [Openinfralabs] Open Telemetry Working Group In-Reply-To: <334DE7B2-958F-4BEE-83ED-C4545698BC64@bu.edu> References: <334DE7B2-958F-4BEE-83ED-C4545698BC64@bu.edu> Message-ID: <20201130191807.cdm32o7lloqn3crx@yuggoth.org> On 2020-11-30 19:07:58 +0000 (+0000), Daitzman, Michael S wrote: [...] > We are holding the Telemetry Working Group kick-off meeting on > December 8, 2020 from 9:30 - 10:30 AM EST. For now, we will set > up the meeting to run bi-weekly. [...] That's 14:30-15:30 UTC for now I guess. Be aware that there's a public OIF board of directors meeting also occurring at 15:00-17:00 UTC on 2020-12-08. I'll try to join for the first part of the telemetry call, but will need to drop halfway through to switch to the OIF board call. No idea whether others are in a similar situation. -- Jeremy Stanley -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: From msd at bu.edu Mon Nov 30 19:18:23 2020 From: msd at bu.edu (Daitzman, Michael S) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 19:18:23 +0000 Subject: [Openinfralabs] Proposal: Relocating Open Infra Labs from Gitlab to Github In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <362584FB-D49C-491E-96E7-A04C1973B57E@bu.edu> I haven’t seen any pushback about doing this - to help with planning, @Jimmy, @Gabriel - what is the timeframe for migrating the website process to GitHub? On Nov 18, 2020, at 10:34 PM, Daitzman, Michael S > wrote: I wanted to have a discussion about relocating our gitlab content to github so that we may better track MOC and OI Labs work on a single project board. Problem Description Historically the Mass Open Cloud repositories have existed github as have the Harvard and BU repositories being used for the NERC. In addition, other team's working on related projects have voiced a preference for github. This creates friction for the dev team's because Open Infra Labs was set up in gitlab and it is, for example, difficult to track the work on a single project board. We have been tracking the details in this ticket: https://github.com/CCI-MOC/ops-issues/issues/39 Proposed solution including issues which need to be resolved We propose relocating open infra labs gitlab content to an Openinfralabs github location. Assuming we move forward we would like to do so before more processes become baked into our use of gitlab. Known issues/steps: • confirm web site may be driven from github and schedule migration • moving content over • import issues - bring over discussions • redirect repositories to github • update openinfralabs web site with links Alternatives & History >Correction for next sentence: Initially we created the repository in the opendev structure and migrated to gitlab in response to feedback from operators who were not used to the gerrit workflow. Some history – initially we created the repository in the opendev and migrated to git in response to feedback from various operators. We chose gitlab at the time because of the perception it is more open then github. Other options: 1. Continue with current state – keeping OpenInfra Labs on gitlab. 2. Migrate MOC/NERC etc. to gitlab. This would be difficult both because of the size of existing repositories, need for retraining and the number of processes already built around the github model. 3. Revisit opendev – at this time it does not address the ease of access issues initially raised by operators. I will summarize this note in irc and point to both the ticket and this email. Thanks! Michael. --- Michael Daitzman (He/Him) msd at bu.edu cell:978-201-9965 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimmy at openstack.org Mon Nov 30 19:46:09 2020 From: jimmy at openstack.org (Jimmy McArthur) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:46:09 -0600 Subject: [Openinfralabs] Proposal: Relocating Open Infra Labs from Gitlab to Github In-Reply-To: <362584FB-D49C-491E-96E7-A04C1973B57E@bu.edu> References: <362584FB-D49C-491E-96E7-A04C1973B57E@bu.edu> Message-ID: <0A43B92D-EA91-4011-B486-10F738485A91@getmailspring.com> Hi Michael, It's a pretty light lift from our side. I think OpenInfra Labs was originally hosted on github and our setup is easily reconfigured to point to wherever the repo is. My suggestion would be for y'all to set it up as you see fit, but add Gabriel and myself as admins we can jump in on the config if needed. Let me know if you have additional questions and/or how we can help :) Cheers Jimmy On Nov 30 2020, at 1:18 pm, Daitzman, Michael S wrote: > > I haven’t seen any pushback about doing this - to help with planning, @Jimmy, @Gabriel - what is the timeframe for migrating the website process to GitHub? > > > > On Nov 18, 2020, at 10:34 PM, Daitzman, Michael S wrote: > > I wanted to have a discussion about relocating our gitlab content to github so that we may better track MOC and OI Labs work on a single project board. > > Problem Description > > Historically the Mass Open Cloud repositories have existed github as have the Harvard and BU repositories being used for the NERC. In addition, other team's working on related projects have voiced a preference for github. > > This creates friction for the dev team's because Open Infra Labs was set up in gitlab and it is, for example, difficult to track the work on a single project board. > > We have been tracking the details in this ticket: https://github.com/CCI-MOC/ops-issues/issues/39 > > Proposed solution including issues which need to be resolved > > We propose relocating open infra labs gitlab content to an Openinfralabs github location. Assuming we move forward we would like to do so before more processes become baked into our use of gitlab. > > Known issues/steps: > > · confirm web site may be driven from github and schedule migration > > · moving content over > > · import issues - bring over discussions > > · redirect repositories to github > > · update openinfralabs web site with links > > Alternatives & History > > > >Correction for next sentence: Initially we created the repository in the opendev structure and migrated to gitlab in response to feedback from operators who were not used to the gerrit workflow. > > Some history – initially we created the repository in the opendev and migrated to git in response to feedback from various operators. We chose gitlab at the time because of the perception it is more open then github. > > Other options: > > Continue with current state – keeping OpenInfra Labs on gitlab. > > > > Migrate MOC/NERC etc. to gitlab. This would be difficult both because of the size of existing repositories, need for retraining and the number of processes already built around the github model. > > > > Revisit opendev – at this time it does not address the ease of access issues initially raised by operators. > > > > > > I will summarize this note in irc and point to both the ticket and this email. > > Thanks! > > > > Michael. > > > > --- > > Michael Daitzman (He/Him) > > msd at bu.edu (mailto:msd at bu.edu) > > cell:978-201-9965 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Openinfralabs mailing list > Openinfralabs at lists.opendev.org > http://lists.opendev.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openinfralabs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: