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Re: [Edge-computing] Invitation: Weekly Edge Computing Group Call (14:00 UTC) @ Weekly from 9am to 10am on Tuesday from Tue Jun 5 to Tue Sep 4 (CDT) (edge-computing@lists.openstack.org)
by Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) 07 Aug '18

07 Aug '18

Hi, Minutes of the meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/weekly_edge_computing_group_call/20… Br, Gerg0 -----Original Appointment----- From: claire(a)openstack.org <claire(a)openstack.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 3:30 PM To: claire(a)openstack.org; Ildiko Vancsa; edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org; Jonathan Bryce Subject: [Edge-computing] Invitation: Weekly Edge Computing Group Call (14:00 UTC) @ Weekly from 9am to 10am on Tuesday from Tue Jun 5 to Tue Sep 4 (CDT) (edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org) When: kedd 2018. augusztus 7 9:00-10:00 America/Chicago. Where: https://zoom.us/j/777719876 more details »<https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=XzZwMmo4ZGkyNm9zamdiO…> Weekly Edge Computing Group Call (14:00 UTC) When Weekly from 9am to 10am on Tuesday from Tue Jun 5 to Tue Sep 4 Central Time Where https://zoom.us/j/777719876 (map<https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fzoom.us%2Fj%2F777719876&sa=D&usd…>) Calendar edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org Who • claire(a)openstack.org - organizer • Ildiko Vancsa • edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org • Jonathan Bryce Weekly agenda & call notes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group<https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstack.org%2Fwiki%2FEdge…> Going? All events in this series: Yes<https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=RESPOND&eid=XzZwMmo4ZGkyNm9zam…> - Maybe<https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=RESPOND&eid=XzZwMmo4ZGkyNm9zam…> - No<https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=RESPOND&eid=XzZwMmo4ZGkyNm9zam…> more options »<https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=XzZwMmo4ZGkyNm9zamdiO…> Invitation from Google Calendar<https://www.google.com/calendar/> You are receiving this courtesy email at the account edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future updates for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at https://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. Learn More<https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding>.

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Edge Computing Group meeting now
by Ildiko Vancsa 07 Aug '18

07 Aug '18

Hi, Just a friendly reminder that we have the Edge Computing Group weekly call in the US - Europe friendly slot, now. :) You can find more information here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group#Meetings Thanks, Ildikó

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Re: [Edge-computing] Image handling in edge environment
by Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) 07 Aug '18

07 Aug '18

Hi, Thanks for the discussion. Minutes are here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/edge_computing_group/2018/edge_comp… Br, Gerg0 -----Original Appointment----- From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 8:58 AM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); 'edge-computing' Cc: Kristi Nikolla; Paul Bankert; David.Paterson(a)dell.com; Silverman, Ben; Arkady.Kanevsky(a)dell.com; Srikumar Venugopal; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE); Giulio Fidente; Shuquan Huang; Jan Walzer; Martin Bäckström; saiyagar(a)redhat.com; Christopher Price; Beierl, Mark Subject: Image handling in edge environment When: szerda 2018. augusztus 1 18:00-19:00 (UTC+01:00) Belgrade, Bratislava, Budapest, Ljubljana, Prague. Where: webex / #edge-computing-group Hi, Let's spend this time to discuss the alternatives for Image handling in edge environment listed in here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Image_handling_in_edge_environment * Check if the alternatives were captured correctly * Check the pros and cons * Check the concerns and questions * Decide if an alternative is a dead end For some strange reasons I do not receive mails from the OpenStack mailing list servers anymore, so if you have anything to discuss about this please use #edge-computing-group or add me directly to the mails. Br, Gerg0 --------------------------- 8< ------------ Webex: https://nokiameetings.webex.com/meet/gergely.csatari Telco if you need it: Internal : 8200300 Hungary: +3614088997 Global numbers<https://nokiameetings.webex.com/cmp3000/webcomponents/widget/globalcallin/g…> Access code: 957 007 218

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Keystone edge architectures meeting this week - ACTION NEEDED
by Ildiko Vancsa 06 Aug '18

06 Aug '18

Hi, We agreed to start discussing the different architecture options to setup Keystone for edge scenarios. We have information captured from pervious discussions here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone_edge_architectures In an attempt to find a time slot that is doable in most time zones I created the following poll to have the first meeting this week: https://doodle.com/poll/ke39uz49znqh4xci We can agree on another slot or alternating slots onwards to make attending the meeting more convenient. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó

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Re: [Edge-computing] Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation
by fuqiao＠chinamobile.com 02 Aug '18

02 Aug '18

Hi, all. We continue the discussion about the keystone demo on ONS on yesterday's edge cloud call and today's EC WG call. The detailed progress are kept in the following etherpad page, under the OPNFV bullet. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ECG_Keystone_Testing In general, we have made some progress on the demo setup, the resources for the demo, and the test scenarios. 1, for the lab resource, Julien will help to save some resource for the demo. I guess that will be in one of our ZTE lab? is that right, @Julien? 2, for demo setup, Manuel helps to give some introduction about the current progress for XCI. For now, we think we could promote the demo by deploy XCI twice in one lab, there are some manuel work required to setup the keystone federation. Details about the federation deployment are kept in Colleen's blog. http://www.gazlene.net/demystifying-keystone-federation.html Manuel will help look into this and see if it is possible to automate these. But we may need help from the keystone team. 3, for the test scenarios, Georg propose we could look into the impact of network condition, scalability, and hardware limitation, and see how these aspects can impact keystone federation. I am trying to propose the following 3 test cases, and hope we could continue the discussion next week. TC01: add network delay between user agent and identity provider. See how latency influence the federation mechanism TC02: add bandwidth limitation between user agent and identity provider, see how bandwidth influence TC03: creat a scenario with a number of (e.g. 1M) users authenticate together, from a certain nunber (e.g. 2) of service provider. and see how the scalability is for the identity provider. Such case could also be done when there are latency and bandwidth limitation between the user agent and the identity provider. I would like to invite the keystone team and the edge cloud team to discuss about the test cases together during our next call. Thank you. 中国移动研究院网络与IT技术研究所付乔 15901025951 From: Georg Kunz Date: 2018-07-31 05:33 To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com; rsblendido; Tim Irnich; ildiko CC: trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui; Manuel Buil Subject: RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi all, Thanks Gerg0. In the meantime, I have also added two sections to the etherpad: i) Test dimensions: Here I wanted to sketch test parameters beyond the purely functional tests that are/will be implemented in Tempest. The goal is to investigate how OPNFV test tools and environments can contribute to expanding the test coverage implemented in the OpenStack CI. ii) Setup: we haven’t settled yet on the setup we want to use for the demo. This section summarizes a simple proposal which intends to strike a balance between a fully automatic deployment via XCI and manual steps to get a demo up and running in time. Feedback is very welcome. I am sorry if I missed that, but did we agree on a follow up meeting this week? Cheers Georg From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) <gergely.csatari(a)nokia.com> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:16 AM To: fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com; rsblendido <rsblendido(a)suse.com>; Georg Kunz <georg.kunz(a)ericsson.com>; Tim Irnich <tim.irnich(a)ericsson.com>; ildiko <ildiko(a)openstack.org> Cc: trevor.cooper <trevor.cooper(a)intel.com>; Periyasamy Palanisamy <periyasamy.palanisamy(a)ericsson.com>; zhaoqihui <zhaoqihui(a)chinamobile.com>; Manuel Buil <mbuil(a)suse.com> Subject: RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi, I’ve added the log in demo idea to the „ONS demo ideas” section of the etherpad. Maybe we should verify with Keystone guys if this is possible �� before we continue implementing it. Br, Gerg0 From: fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com [mailto:fuqiao@chinamobile.com] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 3:58 AM To: rsblendido <rsblendido(a)suse.com>; georg.kunz <georg.kunz(a)ericsson.com>; tim.irnich <tim.irnich(a)ericsson.com>; ildiko <ildiko(a)openstack.org> Cc: trevor.cooper <trevor.cooper(a)intel.com>; periyasamy.palanisamy <periyasamy.palanisamy(a)ericsson.com>; zhaoqihui <zhaoqihui(a)chinamobile.com>; Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) <gergely.csatari(a)nokia.com>; Manuel Buil <mbuil(a)suse.com> Subject: Re: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi, all. thank you for the good discussion yesterday. I think we at least get the ball rolling from OPNFV side. @Ildiko, Gergely will kindly help to provide a demo story for the keystone federation on the etherpad page, so as to help us get better understanding on what the keystone federation will do and what kind of testing we could excute. we plan to continue the discussion of the test scenario and test cases on next week's EC WG call, if you can help save a time slot? Thank you again and hope to talk to you soon. 中国移动研究院网络与IT技术研究所付乔 15901025951 From: Rossella Sblendido Date: 2018-07-25 18:07 To: Georg Kunz; Tim Irnich; fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com; ildiko CC: trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui Subject: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi Georg, I got confused, thanks for the clarification! Rossella On 07/24/2018 11:34 PM, Georg Kunz wrote: > Hi Rosella, > > One comment for clarification: I am aware that baremetal deployments are still work in progress. Because of this reason my point was to install XCI virtual sandbox deployments on pre-configured baremetal hosts - explicitly skipping the baremetal deployment part of the hosts for the demo. Sorry, if that was not clear. > > Best regards > Georg > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rossella Sblendido <rsblendido(a)suse.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 12:38 PM > To: Georg Kunz <georg.kunz(a)ericsson.com>; Tim Irnich <tim.irnich(a)ericsson.com>; fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com; ildiko <ildiko(a)openstack.org> > Cc: trevor.cooper <trevor.cooper(a)intel.com>; Periyasamy Palanisamy <periyasamy.palanisamy(a)ericsson.com>; zhaoqihui <zhaoqihui(a)chinamobile.com> > Subject: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation > > Hi all, > > On 07/24/2018 11:16 AM, Georg Kunz wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> >> chiming in here - please let me know if the following has already been >> discussed. >> >> >> I agree that it would be good to refine the value proposition of the >> demo, i.e. where exactly can OPNFV add a value. In particular, what >> are the shortcomings of a DevStack environment? An automatic >> deployment of a federated Keystone is certainly a basic requirement to >> do anything useful, but that shouldn't be the sole value of the demo >> alone. In principle, this can also be done in a Devstack environment >> (-> see the entire OpenStack CI). > I agree. >> >> >> Instead, we should focus on creating edge-like environments and tests. >> Some ideas: >> >> * I would favor deploying multiple federated tiny OpenStack instances >> (almost just Keystone?) over two full deployments (typical OPNFV >> scenario) to investigate scalability questions. >> >> * meddle with the network properties between instances by means of >> simple traffic shaping tools (tc and netem) > > I like this one, I see it closer to real case. We could also completely cut the network for one deployment which was one of the tests mentioned during one of the last call if I good recall. >> * If we go for two "full" OpenStack deployments (typical OPNFV >> scenario), we could set up two XCI sandboxes on two baremetal >> machines > > this can be tricky, as far as I know baremetal on XCI is still WIP > > I can help and involve somebody more familiar than myself with XCI to join the effort here. > Shall we schedule a kickoff call so that we can outline the demo and split tasks? > > Rossella> >> >> Cheers >> Georg >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> *From:* Tim Irnich >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:03:39 AM >> *To:* fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com; ildiko >> *Cc:* trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui; Rossella >> Sblendido; Georg Kunz >> *Subject:* RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open >> Infrastructure Federation >> >> >> +Rosella and Georg. >> >> >> >> Key question is how much do we need and what exactly do we want to >> build? Since I missed last week’s keystone testing call I’m not sure >> if I have the latest on what’s needed but in my mind we simply need >> two OPNFV deployments with keystone (most scenarios should have that) >> side-by-side and then write a few automated tests. Peri has some ideas >> about modifying XCI so that it can deploy more than one stack from the >> same jumphost, which sounded like a good idea to me. >> >> >> >> Given that we want to demonstrate that setting up environments like >> this in OPNFV is simple, we should not need much effort for an initial stab. >> >> >> >> SO who would be able to spend time on this or find someone else to do it? >> >> >> >> Regards, Tim >> >> >> >> *From:* fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com <fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2018 08:15 >> *To:* ildiko <ildiko(a)openstack.org> >> *Cc:* Tim Irnich <tim.irnich(a)ericsson.com>; trevor.cooper >> <trevor.cooper(a)intel.com>; Periyasamy Palanisamy >> <periyasamy.palanisamy(a)ericsson.com>; zhaoqihui >> <zhaoqihui(a)chinamobile.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open >> Infrastructure Federation >> >> >> >> Hi, Ildiko. thank you for the reply. >> >> I am afraid the edge computing call this week is too late for me to >> stay sober and join the discussion... >> >> probably we can spend some time discuss about this in next week's edge >> computing call, which time is more Asia friendly. >> >> However, one thing at hand is, Brandon is asking about whether we have >> any updates on the demo discription, and he would very much need us to >> reply before Wednesday. So I guess one thing I need to confirm now is >> whether we have enough community interest and resource to accomplish >> this demo in such a short time? Do you have any idea about this? >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> >> 中国移动研究院 >> >> 网络与IT技术研究所 >> >> 付乔15901025951 >> >> >> >> *From:* Ildiko Vancsa <mailto:ildiko@openstack.org> >> >> *Date:* 2018-07-24 12:28 >> >> *To:* fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com <mailto:fuqiao@chinamobile.com> >> >> *CC:* tim.irnich <mailto:tim.irnich@ericsson.com>; Trevor Cooper >> <mailto:trevor.cooper@intel.com>; periyasamy.palanisamy >> <mailto:periyasamy.palanisamy@ericsson.com>; zhaoqihui >> <mailto:zhaoqihui@chinamobile.com> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure >> Federation >> >> Hi Fu Qiao, >> >> >> >> Great, thank you for the update. >> >> >> >> We will have follow up discussions on Keystone Edge architecture >> options, so we didn’t really get to the end of that one. >> >> >> >> I will be flying during the time of tomorrow’s call. We can spend >> some time on this topic on the Edge Computing Group call if you can >> make that one? >> >> >> >> If not we can look into setting up something separately or sync on >> this thread. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ildikó >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 2018. Jul 23., at 6:25, fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com <mailto:fuqiao@chinamobile.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hi，all. Seems that our demo proposal has been accepted. >> >> > Since I am out of office last week, I am not able to join ildiko's call for the discussion about the demo. Do you have any updates for this? >> >> > Ildiko, are you OK to share the progress of the discussion on this week's edge cloud call? >> >> > Thank you! >> >> > >> >> > fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com <mailto:fuqiao@chinamobile.com> >> >> > >> >> > From: Brandon Wick >> >> > Date: 2018-07-21 09:05 >> >> > To: fuqiao; Cooper, Trevor >> >> > Subject: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure >> Federation >> >> > Dear Fu Qiao & Trevor: >> >> > >> >> > We are pleased to inform you that your demo idea submitted for the LF Networking Booth at Open Networking Summit Europe: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation has been accepted. Congratulations! There were many more >> submissions than available slots and the LFN leadership team thought >> your demo would provide significant value to the community. >> >> > >> >> > We are not yet final with the booth/kiosk design yet, but we will be following up soon with more information on the demo station, power, storage, chairs, internet, etc. We'll also share a timeline with a detailed >> list of next steps, but in the meantime, please provide us with the >> following by Tuesday, July 24. >> >> > • Confirm receipt of this email and that you still intend to attend ONS and execute this demo. >> >> > • Confirm your final demo title (10 words max) >> >> > • Confirm your final demo abstract (150 words max) for external publication (ONS website, Blogs, Newsletters, etc) and participating projects and companies. Note: This should be compelling answering the question >> Why should someone want to come see the demo)? >> >> > Best, >> >> > >> >> > Brandon Wick >> >> > Senior Integrated Marketing Manager >> >> > The Linux Foundation >> >> > bwick(a)linuxfoundation.org <mailto:bwick@linuxfoundation.org> >> >> > +1.917.282.0960 >> >> >> >> >>

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Review of Dublin edge notes
by Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) 02 Aug '18

02 Aug '18

Hi, Let's continue the IRC meeting to discuss the comments to the Dublin edge notes from 5.3.2.15 Quotas receiver side: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG. Notes of the previous meetings: * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes/2018/ * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes/2018/re… * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_ii/2018… * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_03/2018… Please note, that the correction of the comments is not finished yet, tracking of comment correction is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Dublin-edge-notes-wiki Br, Gerg0

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No Review of Dublin edge notes meeting today
by Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) 02 Aug '18

02 Aug '18

Hi, Sorry, but I will not be able to host the meeting today. Let's continue next week. Br, Gerg0

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APAC meeting slot this week
by Ildiko Vancsa 31 Jul '18

31 Jul '18

Hi, It is a friendly reminder that we are switching to the APAC slot this week with the Edge Computing Group call. The APAC slot is Thursday (August 2), 0700 UTC: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group#Meetings See you on Thursday! Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó

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Cancel Today's Meeting
by Jess Lampe 30 Jul '18

30 Jul '18

My travel back from the East Coast is was bumped up and I will be in-flight during our sync up. We do not appear to have any new content generated so I propose we postpone until next week. Cheers, Jess Lampe

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[edge][glance]: Image handling in edge environment
by Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) 27 Jul '18

27 Jul '18

Hi, We had a great Forum session about image handling in edge environment in Vancouver [1<https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/yvr-edge-cloud-images>]. As one outcome of the session I've created a wiki with the mentioned architecture options [1<https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Image_handling_in_edge_environment>]. During the Edge Working Group [3<https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group>] discussions we identified some questions (some of them are in the wiki, some of them are in mails [4<http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/edge-computing/2018-June/000239.html>]) and also I would like to get some feedback on the analyzis in the wiki from people who know Glance. I think the best would be to have some kind of meeting and I see two options to organize this: * Organize a dedicated meeting for this * Add this topic as an agenda point to the Glance weekly meeting Please share your preference and/or opinion. Thanks, Gerg0 [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/yvr-edge-cloud-images [2]: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Image_handling_in_edge_environment [3]: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group [4]: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/edge-computing/2018-June/000239.html

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