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Another Use case for Edge -- Content delivery
by beth.cohen＠verizon.com 25 Jun '18

25 Jun '18

Folks - Saw this story today: LiquidSky is using 5G to explore the edge of cloud computing<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__alva-2Dgroup.us11.list…> This is a content delivery edge use case. [Verizon]<http://www.verizon.com/> Beth Cohen DMTS - NFV/SDN Network Product Strategy Verizon Technology 60 Sylvan Rd Waltham, MA 02451 O +781-466-2055 | M +781-434-8553 beth.cohen(a)verizon.com<mailto:beth.cohen@verizon.com> <http://www.facebook.com/verizon> [Twitter] <http://twitter.com/verizon> [Instagram] <http://www.instagram.com/verizon>

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Use Cases
by Jess Lampe 25 Jun '18

25 Jun '18

*Proposed Template* To see the proposed layout, go to the Use Cases Page. <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group/Use_Cases> - Near the top of the page you will find the layout in markup. - Below the template, the use cases that existed already were converted into the template. - At the bottom, please find the requirements that were captured at the Dublin event. I moved them to this Use Case page to centralize use cases and requirements. *Feedback? * As requested in the Monday and Tuesday meetings, we are soliciting feedback on the template format. Does it help sufficiently describe possible use cases? Does it help with mapping to requirements? I've created an etherpad to collect feedback. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/feedback_on_template Thanks!

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Use Case Meeting
by Jess Lampe 25 Jun '18

25 Jun '18

Hi Everyone, 1.) I sent out a calendar invite for the ongoing Use Case Meeting. Please accept if you are interested in attending the weekly meetings at Monday 1pm Pacific. 2.) I will not be able to attend the meeting tomorrow due last minute shifts in my schedule. Beth - if you are attending can you lead the review of the use case template? The use case template <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group/Use_Cases> can be found on the use case wiki page <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group/Use_Cases>. Our plan is to write complete use cases with the template as a guide starting this week. Thanks!

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Invitation: Edge Computing - Use Case Meeting @ Weekly from 1pm to 2pm on Monday (PDT) (edge-computing@lists.openstack.org)
by Jess Lampe 25 Jun '18

25 Jun '18

You have been invited to the following event. Title: Edge Computing - Use Case Meeting Next meeting: Monday(June 18) at 1pm PDT / 2000 UTC Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/879678938 Dialing in from phone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 646 876 9923 Meeting ID: 879 678 938 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/ed95sU7aQ When: Weekly from 1pm to 2pm on Monday Pacific Time Calendar: edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org Who: * Jess Lampe - organizer * edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NzdraGQwZjJ1MzVjODdja… Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this courtesy email at the account edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future updates for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at https://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. Learn more at https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Keystone federation testing - Volunteers Needed
by Ildiko Vancsa 21 Jun '18

21 Jun '18

Hi, As I mentioned on the weekly calls one of the activities we are planning to do is test and improve Keystone to fit better the Edge scenarios. One of the options we talked about at the Forum in Vancouver was federation. Keystone supports federation[1][2][3] in different setups, but it’s not fully tested in an automated fashion at this point. We are planning to add more tests to validate the federation capabilities. I created an etherpad[4] to plan activities, __please add your name if you are interested in participating__. You can find relevant links to planned Keystone architectures and former testing activities on our wiki page[5]. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó [1] https://docs.openstack.org/security-guide/identity/federated-keystone.html [2] https://docs.openstack.org/keystone/queens/advanced-topics/federation/confi… [3] https://docs.openstack.org/keystone/queens/advanced-topics/federation/feder… [4] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ECG_Keystone_Testing [5] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group#Keystone

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PTG Denver 2018 further information
by Ildiko Vancsa 21 Jun '18

21 Jun '18

Hi, Please find below a bit more details on the upcoming PTG (https://www.openstack.org/ptg/) from my colleague, Kendall below. You can see which teams are planning to meet in Denver and plan collaborative sessions based on this information. The Edge Computing Group is planned for a full day meeting, we are still working on the exact schedule. Please add your name to the following etherpad if you plan on attending: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/EdgeComputingGroupPTG4 Please let me know if you have any questions to the information below or about the PTG itself. Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó (IRC: ildikov) ----------------------------------------------- Hello Everyone! Wanted to give you some updates on PTG4 planning. We have finalized the list of SIGs/ Groups/WGs/Teams that are attending. They are as follows: * Airship * API SIG * Barbican/Security SIG * Blazar * Chef OpenStack * Cinder * Cyborg * Designate * Documentation * Edge Computing Group * First Contact SIG * Glance * Heat * Horizon * Infrastructure * Interop WG * Ironic * Kata * Keystone * Kolla * LOCI * Manila * Masakari * Mistral * Monasca * Neutron * Nova * Octavia * OpenStack Ansible * OpenStack Charms * OpenStack Helm * OpenStackClient * Operator Meetup * Puppet OpenStack * QA * Oslo * Public Cloud WG * Release Management * Requirements * Sahara * Scientific SIG * Self-Healing SIG * SIG-K8s * StarlingX * Swift * OpenStack TC * TripleO * Upgrades SIG * Watcher * Zuul (pending confirmation) Thierry and I are working on placing them into a strawman schedule to reduce conflicts between related or overlapping groups. We should have more on what that will look like and a draft for you all to review in the next few weeks. We also wanted to remind you all of the Travel Support Program. We are again doing a two phase selection. The first deadline is approaching: July 1st. At this point we have less than a dozen applicants so if you need it or even think you need it, I urge you to apply here[1]. Also! Reminder that we have a finite number of rooms in the hotel block so please book early to make sure you get the discounted rate before they run out. You can book those rooms here[2] (pardon the ugly URL). Can't wait to see you all there! -Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) P.S. Gonna try to do a game night again since you all seemed to enjoy it so much last time :) [1] https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/travelsupportptg_denver_2018 [2] https://www.marriott.com/meeting-event-hotels/group-corporate-travel/groupC…

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Re: [Edge-computing] Edge-computing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 25
by Jess Lampe 20 Jun '18

20 Jun '18

Hi Gergely, TK is a place holder text for "more to come". It's a letter pairing in english that is so infrequent you can search TK and not find any other words in a document. On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:49 AM <edge-computing-request(a)lists.openstack.org> wrote: > Send Edge-computing mailing list submissions to > edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > edge-computing-request(a)lists.openstack.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > edge-computing-owner(a)lists.openstack.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Edge-computing digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Use Cases (Jess Lampe) > 2. [Use Cases]: Some comments / questions > (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) > 3. Re: 答复: 答复: Clarification_of_Requirements > (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 21:58:09 -0700 > From: Jess Lampe <jess.lampe(a)gmail.com> > To: "edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org" > <edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org> > Subject: [Edge-computing] Use Cases > Message-ID: > <CAM01PEX= > uLgdiJq5N23dLBWf881+v689iVcD2XoWAuo3FneaXA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > *Proposed Template* > To see the proposed layout, go to the Use Cases Page. > <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group/Use_Cases> > > - Near the top of the page you will find the layout in markup. > - Below the template, the use cases that existed already were converted > into the template. > - At the bottom, please find the requirements that were captured at the > Dublin event. I moved them to this Use Case page to centralize use cases > and requirements. > > *Feedback? * > As requested in the Monday and Tuesday meetings, we are soliciting feedback > on the template format. > > Does it help sufficiently describe possible use cases? Does it help with > mapping to requirements? > > I've created an etherpad to collect feedback. > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/feedback_on_template > > Thanks! >

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[Use Cases]: Some comments / questions
by Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) 20 Jun '18

20 Jun '18

Hi, Some comments and questions to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group/Use_Cases * (Can't we have a wiki with quick comment capabilities?) * What is TK? * Requirements: This is a section what is still under review in the Dublin PTG Discussion notes [1<https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG#Requi…>]. I will mirror the correction of the comments to here also, but I keep updating the original version until the end of the reviews. After the review finished we can remove the content from the original location and maintain it here. [1]: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG#Requi… Br, Gerg0

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Re: [Edge-computing] 答复: 答复: Clarification_of_Requirements
by 赵奇慧 20 Jun '18

20 Jun '18

Hi Gergely, It's great that our data can help. But I think according the the previous definitions of small edge and medium edge, there should be a little modification here. For Small edge, the maximum hardware specs is up to 1 unit, which is similar to our Access-level DC/Edge TIC AP. For Mediun edge, the hardware spec varies from 2RU to 20RU, which is somehow like our County-level DC. So here is my suggestion: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Small edge: Number of instances (Edge TIC AP according to [6]): depend on demandsDistance from Base Station (Access-level DC according to [6]): around 10km E2E delay (from UE to site)(Access according to [6]): 2 msBandwith need (Access according to [6]): 50 GB Medium edge: Number of instances (Edge TIC County according to [6]): 3000+Distance from Base Station (Access-level DC according to [6]): around 50km E2E delay (from UE to site) (Access according to [6]): less than 2.5 msBandwith need (Access according to [6]): 100GB ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Best Regards, Qihui Zhao China Mobile Research Institute Department of Network Technology 发件人: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) 时间: 2018/06/15(星期五)22:14 收件人: lebre.adrien; 抄送人: paul-andre raymond;edge-computing; 主题: Re: [Edge-computing] 答复: 答复: Clarification_of_RequirementsHi, I was thinking about the generic deployment specific requirements, like bandwiths and delays. I've added some of them from the CM presentation to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG#Small… and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG#Mediu… Br, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: lebre.adrien(a)free.fr [mailto:lebre.adrien@free.fr] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 11:39 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) <gergely.csatari(a)nokia.com> Cc: Arkady Kanevsky <Arkady.Kanevsky(a)dell.com>; fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com; paul-andre raymond <paul-andre.raymond(a)b-yond.com>; edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] 答复: 答复: Clarification of Requirements Hi all, Maybe we can try to prioritise the projects we want to investigate and then for each of them identify what are the missing elements/capabilities (one after the others) There are ongoing works on Keystone and Glance. Nova, Neutron could be the next ones because these 4 services would allow to deploy VM at the edge (and so containers inside VMs). Cinder will enable the use of remote attached volumes. Ironic can be useful later. etc.. My two cents, Ad_ri3n_ ----- Mail original ----- > De: "Gergely Csatari (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > <gergely.csatari(a)nokia.com> > À: "Arkady Kanevsky" <Arkady.Kanevsky(a)dell.com>, fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com, "paul-andre raymond" > <paul-andre.raymond(a)b-yond.com>, "lebre adrien" > <lebre.adrien(a)free.fr>, edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > Envoyé: Mercredi 13 Juin 2018 17:38:35 > Objet: RE: [Edge-computing] 答复: 答复: Clarification of Requirements > > Hi, > > Somehow I have a feeling that these latency requirements are related > to all projects, this is why they should be documented in the > Deployment options section. > > Br, > Gerg0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Arkady.Kanevsky(a)dell.com [mailto:Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 4:24 PM > To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > <gergely.csatari(a)nokia.com>; fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com; > paul-andre.raymond(a)b-yond.com; lebre.adrien(a)free.fr; > edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > Subject: RE: [Edge-computing] 答复: 答复: Clarification of Requirements > > Gerg0, > I think these 3 projects are implied from the wiki requirements. > But it will be good to state projects that may need work explicitly. > Thanks, > Arkady > > -----Original Message----- > From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > [mailto:gergely.csatari@nokia.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 4:23 AM > To: Kanevsky, Arkady; fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com; > paul-andre.raymond(a)b-yond.com; lebre.adrien(a)free.fr; > edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > Subject: RE: [Edge-computing] 答复: 答复: Clarification of Requirements > > Hi, > > Should we add these to the Deployment Scenarions section of the Dublin > wiki [1]? > > [1]: > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG# > Deployment_Scenarios > > Br, > Gerg0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Arkady.Kanevsky(a)dell.com [mailto:Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 4:49 PM > To: fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com; paul-andre.raymond(a)b-yond.com; > lebre.adrien(a)free.fr; edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] 答复: 答复: Clarification of Requirements > > It is more than just nova to keystone. > We also need to consider at least neutron, glance and cinder also. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fu Qiao [mailto:fuqiao@chinamobile.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 8:21 AM > To: 'Paul-Andre Raymond'; lebre.adrien(a)free.fr; > edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > Subject: [Edge-computing] 答复: 答复: Clarification of Requirements > > Yes, 5ms is one way. But this is an assumption based on the network > from China Mobile. The latency will be defer if you have different > distance, but the calculation method is the same apparently. > > -----邮件原件----- > 发件人: Paul-Andre Raymond [mailto:paul-andre.raymond@b-yond.com] > 发送时间: 2018年6月6日 21:19 > 收件人: Fu Qiao <fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com>; lebre.adrien(a)free.fr; > edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > 主题: Re: [Edge-computing] 答复: Clarification of Requirements > > Should we separate two kinds of latency requirements: > - Federation Latency: i.e Central Keystone to Local Keystone > - API latency: i.e. Edge Nova to local Keystone > > Should we measure it one way or Round Trip? I assume the 5ms below is > one way. > > > Paul-André > -- > > > On 6/6/18, 5:13 AM, "Fu Qiao" <fuqiao(a)chinamobile.com> wrote: > > Thank you Adrien. I was just about the reply with more details. > > About latency, this as I understand is actually decided mostly by > the distance of the distributed cloud. So it actually decided by > where exactly the location Keystone would like to deploy, and > what is the distance expectation. Like what I explain in my > presentation, we plan to have keystone sitting in the city level > to control multi cloud in counties, and the latency will be > around 5ms. But again this is a certain situation for China > Mobile. And other operators may make the conlusion on a > different structure. Another thing we can do is work on > simulation and testing and see what kind of latency the current > keystone federation scheme can tolerant. This will help the > operators to work out there structure as well. > > About bandwidth, the impression for me is we could expect more > than 50GB of bandwidth for edge for 5G. And I think that is > enough for most of the app. > > Hope this will help. > > -----邮件原件----- > 发件人: lebre.adrien(a)free.fr [mailto:lebre.adrien@free.fr] > 发送时间: 2018年6月6日 15:25 > 收件人: edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > 主题: Re: [Edge-computing] Clarification of Requirements > > It is rather difficult to give numbers because there are several > use-cases. > However, a good starting point can be to give a look to the > presentation Qiao Fu gave during the Vancouver summit: > https://www.openstack.org/videos/vancouver-2018/edge-tic-future-edge-cloud-… > There is a lot of numbers regarding the infrastructure China > Mobile is envisioning. > > Hope this helps. > ad_ri3n_ > PS: I cannot attend the meeting yesterday unfortunately but I'm > wondering whether the disconnection aspects have been discussed > (i.e. the fact that one site can be completely isolated for a > certain period of time due to network disconnections). > > ----- Mail original ----- > > De: "Jess Lampe" <jess.lampe(a)gmail.com> > > À: edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > > Envoyé: Mercredi 6 Juin 2018 07:00:31 > > Objet: [Edge-computing] Clarification of Requirements > > > > > > > > > > During the call today, members of the Glance and Keystone teams > > requested clarity on the following areas: > > > > > > > > * Latency - what are the specific latency requirements that > > need > > to be met? > > * Bandwidth towards the edge - similarly, what are the > > limitations of bandwidth at the edge that we can expect? > > * Security - what are the specific security considerations > > that > > need to be? > > > > > > Please feel free to A.) contribute additional areas that need > > clarifying B.) clarify any of the added. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edge-computing mailing list > > Edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > _______________________________________________ Edge-computing mailing list Edge-computing(a)lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing

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PTG Denver 2018 Registration & Hotel Info
by Ildiko Vancsa 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

Hi, We talked about the PTG last week and we are planning a full day for the Edge Computing Group to meet face to face in Denver. The registration is already open for the PTG, below you can find important details to get prepared for the event. The fourth Project Teams Gathering will be held September 10-14th back at the Renaissance Stapleton Hotel in Denver, Colorado (3801 Quebec Street, Denver, Colorado 80207). REGISTRATION AND HOTEL Registration is now available here: https://denver2018ptg.eventbrite.com <https://denver2018ptg.eventbrite.com/> The price is currently USD $399 until August 23 at 6:59 UTC. After that date, the price will be USD $599 so buy your pass before the price increases! We've reserved a very limited block of discounted hotel rooms at $149/night USD (does not include breakfast) with the Renaissance Denver Stapleton Hotel <https://www.marriott.com/meeting-event-hotels/group-corporate-travel/groupC…> where the event will be held. Please move quickly to reserve a room by August 20th or until they sell out! TRAIN NEAR HOTEL The hotel has informed us that the RTD is anticipating the area near the Renaissance Denver Stapleton Hotel being deemed a quiet zone by end of July, with a more realistic completion date of August 15th. This means there should not be any train horns during the week of the PTG! HELPFUL LINKS: Registration: https://denver2018ptg.eventbrite.com <https://denver2018ptg.eventbrite.com/> Visa Invitation Letter (deadline August 24): https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/visa_form_denver_2018_ptg <https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/visa_form_denver_2018_ptg> Travel Support Program (first round deadline July 1): https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/travelsupportptg_denver_2018 <https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/travelsupportptg_denver_2018> Sponsorship: https://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_sponsor <https://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_sponsor> Book a Hotel Room (deadline August 20): https://www.marriott.com/meeting-event-hotels/group-corporate-travel/groupC… <https://www.marriott.com/meeting-event-hotels/group-corporate-travel/groupC…> Please let me or Kendall (in cc) know if you have any questions, looking forward to seeing everyone in Denver! Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó

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