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Team Meeting Agenda for August 26, 2025
by Clark Boylan 25 Aug '25

25 Aug '25

We will meet with this agenda on August 26, 2025 at 19:00 UTC in #opendev-meeting: == Agenda for next meeting == * Announcements * Actions from last meeting * Specs Review * Topics ** Gerrit 3.11 Upgrade Planning (clarkb 20250401) *** https://www.gerritcodereview.com/3.11.html *** Please check this for any concerns with the way we use Gerrit. *** Held nodes for these two builds: **** https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/f1ca0d1f2e054829a4506ececb58bed3 **** https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/588723b923e94901af3065143d9df818 *** There is discussion about replication and reindexing bugs in 3.11.4/3.12.1 that don't affect us yet due to being on 3.10. We should try to test these problems to see if they affect us. **** Clarkb tested this with held notes on admittedly trivial test data sets but was unable to reproduce the problems *** Shutting down Gerrit can race the indexing of new changes. If this happens we can have new changes created that are not indexed leading to multiple changes with the same changeid later. To mitigate this we can/should reindex changes on Gerrit startup. *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/gerrit-upgrade-3.11 Planning Document for the eventual Upgrade *** Will need to select a date once we know more about the upgrade itself. ** Upgrading Old Servers (clarkb 20230627) *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-bionic-server-upgrades *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-focal-server-upgrades *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-server-replacement-sprint **** wiki.openstack.org: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-mediawiki-upgrade **** tonyb looking at cacti after wiki *** Kerberos and OpenAFS servers are in the middle of getting upgraded. Most are running Jammy now. Then after everything is running Jammy the next round of updates will get us on Noble. *** Next on the list are graphite and backup servers *** Remember to use launch-node's --config-drive flag when booting new Noble nodes in Rax Classic ** Moving OpenDev Synchronous Communication to Matrix (clarkb 20250520) *** https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/infra-specs/+/954826 Spec outlining the motivation and plan for Matrix trialing ** Pre PTG Planning (clarkb 20250624) *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-preptg-october-2025 Planning happening in this document *** Clarkb has added a number of topic Ideas. Please add more. *** Times: Tuesday October 7 1800-2000 UTC, Wednesday October 8 1500-1700 UTC, Thursday October 9 1500-1700 *** The Tuesday time block would effectively replace our weekly IRC meeting. ** Service Coordinator Election Planning (clarkb 20250729) *** Nomination period is over. Clarkb was the only nominee. Clarkb is it again by default. If there are any questions or concerns let's air them now then we can consider this official and done. ** Loss of upstream Debian bullseye-backports mirror (fungi 20250805) *** https://review.opendev.org/956497 temporarily ignore undefinedtarget *** the workaround isn't too bad, but we need to make a longer-term decision about our mirror contents and the configure-mirrors role ** Etherpad 2.5.0 Upgrade (clarkb 20250805) *** https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/v2.5.0/CHANGELOG.md *** This release is reported to have fixed our css problems. *** https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/956593/ *** 104.130.127.119 is a held node for testing. You need to edit /etc/hosts to point etherpad.opendev.org at that IP. ** Moving OpenDev's python-base/python-builder/uwsgi-base Images to Quay (clarkb 20250812) *** All of our containers that are build from these base images are now running on Noble nodes with podman *** It should be safe for us to move the base images then rebuild everything using quay as the source. *** https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/957277 ** Adding Debian Trixie Base Python Container Images (clarkb 20250826) *** https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/958480 *** Trixie is here. Let's bootstrap some container images so that we can migrate over to the new release in our containers. ** Dropping Ubuntu Bionic Test Nodes (clarkb 20250826) *** Zuul will be dropping Ansible 9 support soon. When that happens Ubuntu Bionic test nodes will stop working in Zuul as Python on them is too old for Ansible 11 *** Should we announce that we're ripping these nodes out now in an effort to begin the cleanup process so that by the time the Zuul changes happen we're well on our way to a happy state? *** This cleanup will also enable us to drop additional content from the afs ubuntu mirrors which will make afs server upgrades slightly easier. * Open discussion

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Team Meeting Agenda for August 19, 2025
by Clark Boylan 18 Aug '25

18 Aug '25

We will meet with this agenda on August 19, 2025 at 19:00 UTC in #opendev-meeting: == Agenda for next meeting == * Announcements * Actions from last meeting * Specs Review * Topics ** Gerrit 3.11 Upgrade Planning (clarkb 20250401) *** https://www.gerritcodereview.com/3.11.html *** Please check this for any concerns with the way we use Gerrit. *** Held nodes for these two builds: **** https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/f1ca0d1f2e054829a4506ececb58bed3 **** https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/588723b923e94901af3065143d9df818 *** There is discussion about replication and reindexing bugs in 3.11.4/3.12.1 that don't affect us yet due to being on 3.10. We should try to test these problems to see if they affect us. **** Clarkb tested this with held notes on admittedly trivial test data sets but was unable to reproduce the problems *** Shutting down Gerrit can race the indexing of new changes. If this happens we can have new changes created that are not indexed leading to multiple changes with the same changeid later. To mitigate this we can/should reindex changes on Gerrit startup. *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/gerrit-upgrade-3.11 Planning Document for the eventual Upgrade *** Will need to select a date once we know more about the upgrade itself. ** Upgrading Old Servers (clarkb 20230627) *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-bionic-server-upgrades *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-focal-server-upgrades *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-server-replacement-sprint **** wiki.openstack.org: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-mediawiki-upgrade **** tonyb looking at cacti after wiki *** Next on the list are kerberos, openafs, graphite, and backup servers *** Remember to use launch-node's --config-drive flag when booting new Noble nodes in Rax Classic ** Moving OpenDev Synchronous Communication to Matrix (clarkb 20250520) *** https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/infra-specs/+/954826 Spec outlining the motivation and plan for Matrix trialing ** Pre PTG Planning (clarkb 20250624) *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-preptg-october-2025 Planning happening in this document *** Clarkb has added a number of topic Ideas. Please add more. *** Proposed times: Tuesday October 7 1800-2000 UTC, Wednesday October 8 1500-1700 UTC, Thursday October 9 1500-1700 *** The Tuesday time block would effectively replace our weekly IRC meeting. ** Service Coordinator Election Planning (clarkb 20250729) *** Nomination Period open from August 5, 2025 to August 19, 2025. If necessary we will hold an election from August 20, 2025 to August 27, 2025. All date ranges and times will be in UTC. *** https://lists.opendev.org/archives/list/service-discuss@lists.opendev.org/t… ** Loss of upstream Debian bullseye-backports mirror (fungi 20250805) *** https://review.opendev.org/956497 temporarily ignore undefinedtarget *** the workaround isn't too bad, but we need to make a longer-term decision about our mirror contents and the configure-mirrors role ** Etherpad 2.4.2 Upgrade (clarkb 20250805) *** https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/v2.4.2/CHANGELOG.md *** Theming updates have broken the no-skin and custom skin themes. We use no-skin. https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/issues/7065 *** We could consider switching to Colibris skin which does work. This skin presents etherpads in a google docs piece of paper manner. ** Moving OpenDev's python-base/python-builder/uwsgi-base Images to Quay (clarkb 20250812) *** All of our containers that are build from these base images are now running on Noble nodes with podman *** It should be safe for us to move the base images then rebuild everything using quay as the source. *** https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/957277 ** Bootstrapping rax-flex iad3 (clarkb 20250819) *** We should be able to use rax-flex iad3 now for additional capacity and redundancy *** https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/957810 Initial bootstrapping steps *** Will need to boot a mirror and configure the region in opendev/zuul-providers. * Open discussion

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Clarkb's OpenDev Service Coordinator Nomination
by Clark Boylan 18 Aug '25

18 Aug '25

Per the plan sent in this announcement [0] the OpenDev Service Coordinator nomination period ends in just over 24 hours. I haven't seen any indication that anyone else is interested in running. I am willing to continue in the role. This email makes it official. I am nominating myself for the role of OpenDev Service Coordinator. My goals for the next six months are to wrap up the server upgrades that have been in progress for some time. We've made great progress here; enough to have all python based containers running on Ubuntu Noble. Eventually all of our container images should be hosted on quay.io as well. Gerrit is due for an upgrade. We'll run a pre PTG event to ensure everyone has a chance to sync back up on where our priorities lie and what outstanding efforts could use some help. Finally, I suspect we'll work with Zuul to get zuul-launcher officially released as part of the Zuul suite of tools. Hopefully this sounds good. If not feel free to run as well. I'm more than happy to have someone else step into the role and trade off duties for a bit. [0] https://lists.opendev.org/archives/list/service-discuss@lists.opendev.org/t… Clark

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Help w/ storyboard issue -- cannot delete label
by Khalil, Ghada 14 Aug '25

14 Aug '25

Hi all, I hope someone here can point me to the right contact to help with this issue. I get the following error when trying to delete the "stx.11.0" label from this storyboard: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2011361 500: DELETE /api/v1/stories/2011361/tags: DELETE statement on table 'story_storytags' expected to delete 1 row(s); Only 2 were matched. Any ideas on how to fix this issue? From the storyboard history, it appears that the tag was added twice somehow. Thanks, Ghada Khalil StarlingX Release Prime

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Team Meeting Agenda for August 12, 2025
by Clark Boylan 11 Aug '25

11 Aug '25

We will meet with this agenda on August 12, 2025 at 19:00 UTC in #opendev-meeting: == Agenda for next meeting == * Announcements * Actions from last meeting * Specs Review * Topics ** Gerrit 3.11 Upgrade Planning (clarkb 20250401) *** https://www.gerritcodereview.com/3.11.html *** Please check this for any concerns with the way we use Gerrit. *** Held nodes for these two builds: **** https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/f1ca0d1f2e054829a4506ececb58bed3 **** https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/588723b923e94901af3065143d9df818 *** There is discussion about replication and reindexing bugs in 3.11.4/3.12.1 that don't affect us yet due to being on 3.10. We should try to test these problems to see if they affect us. **** Clarkb tested this with held notes on admittedly trivial test data sets but was unable to reproduce the problems *** Shutting down Gerrit can race the indexing of new changes. If this happens we can have new changes created that are not indexed leading to multiple changes with the same changeid later. To mitigate this we can/should reindex changes on Gerrit startup. *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/gerrit-upgrade-3.11 Planning Document for the eventual Upgrade *** Will need to select a date once we know more about the upgrade itself. ** Upgrading Old Servers (clarkb 20230627) *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-bionic-server-upgrades *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-focal-server-upgrades *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-server-replacement-sprint **** wiki.openstack.org: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-mediawiki-upgrade **** tonyb looking at cacti after wiki *** Fungi announced refstack removal and cleanup: https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack… *** Need to cleanup the eavesdrop01 server and its DNS records. *** Remember to use launch-node's --config-drive flag when booting new Noble nodes in Rax Classic ** Working through our TODO list (clarkb 20250107) *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-running-todo-list ** Moving OpenDev Synchronous Communication to Matrix (clarkb 20250520) *** https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/infra-specs/+/954826 Spec outlining the motivation and plan for Matrix trialing ** Pre PTG Planning (clarkb 20250624) *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-preptg-october-2025 Planning happening in this document *** Clarkb has added a number of topic Ideas. Please add more. *** Proposed times: Tuesday October 7 1800-2000 UTC, Wednesday October 8 1500-1700 UTC, Thursday October 9 1500-1700 *** The Tuesday time block would effectively replace our weekly IRC meeting. ** Service Coordinator Election Planning (clarkb 20250729) *** Nomination Period open from August 5, 2025 to August 19, 2025. If necessary we will hold an election from August 20, 2025 to August 27, 2025. All date ranges and times will be in UTC. *** https://lists.opendev.org/archives/list/service-discuss@lists.opendev.org/t… *** Clarkb is more than happy to support someone new in the role. Please reach out if there are questions or interest. *** One week left in the nomination period. ** Loss of upstream Debian bullseye-backports mirror (fungi 20250805) *** https://review.opendev.org/956497 temporarily ignore undefinedtarget *** the workaround isn't too bad, but we need to make a longer-term decision about our mirror contents and the configure-mirrors role ** Adding Ansible 11 to Zuul (corvus 20250805) *** Zuul is growing support for Ansible 11 and dropping Ansible 8 *** What is our rollout plan for OpenDev's Zuul deployment and its tenants? ** Etherpad 2.4.2 Upgrade (clarkb 20250805) *** https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/v2.4.2/CHANGELOG.md *** Theming updates have broken the no-skin and custom skin themes. We use no-skin. https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/issues/7065 *** We could consider switching to Colibris skin which does work. This skin presents etherpads in a google docs piece of paper manner. ** Cleaning Up the Old voip.ms Account (clarkb 20250812) *** The foundation noticed a small charge on our voip.ms account recently. We haven't used it since asterisk went away. *** Fungi and I would like to clean that up. If we configure meetpad to interface with POTS we can reconfigure SIP and set up a new account or resurrect the old one. *** Any concerns with this plan? ** Moving OpenDev's python-base/python-builder/uwsig-base Images to Quay (clarkb 20250812) *** All of our containers that are build from these base images are now running on Noble nodes with podman *** It should be safe for us to move the base images then rebuild everything using quay as the source. *** Concerns **** Projects outside of OpenDev use these base images (zuul and vexxhost for example). Do we need to coordinate with them or just do our best to get everything updated in a short span of time? **** Image builds that are built using docker as the underlying build system may still fail to speculatively fetch images from Quay. I believe that using buildx/buildkit which is now docker's default fixes this; however, I am unsure if we need to make updates to our build jobs to make that work. * Open discussion

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Team Meeting Agenda for August 5, 2025
by Clark Boylan 05 Aug '25

05 Aug '25

We will meet on August 5, 2025 at 19:00 UTC in #opendev-meeting with this agenda: == Agenda for next meeting == * Announcements * Actions from last meeting * Specs Review * Topics ** Gerrit 3.11 Upgrade Planning (clarkb 20250401) *** https://www.gerritcodereview.com/3.11.html *** Please check this for any concerns with the way we use Gerrit. *** Held nodes for these two builds: **** https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/f1ca0d1f2e054829a4506ececb58bed3 **** https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/588723b923e94901af3065143d9df818 *** There is discussion about replication and reindexing bugs in 3.11.4/3.12.1 that don't affect us yet due to being on 3.10. We should try to test these problems to see if they affect us. **** Clarkb tested this with held notes on admittedly trivial test data sets but was unable to reproduce the problems *** Shutting down Gerrit can race the indexing of new changes. If this happens we can have new changes created that are not indexed leading to multiple changes with the same changeid later. To mitigate this we can/should reindex changes on Gerrit startup. *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/gerrit-upgrade-3.11 Planning Document for the eventual Upgrade *** Will need to select a date once we know more about the upgrade itself. ** Upgrading Old Servers (clarkb 20230627) *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-bionic-server-upgrades *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-focal-server-upgrades *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-server-replacement-sprint **** wiki.openstack.org: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-mediawiki-upgrade **** tonyb looking at cacti after wiki *** Fungi announced refstack removal and cleanup: https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack… *** Fungi also replaced the eavesdrop server running all of our IRC and Matrix bots. Have we cleaned up the old server and its DNS records yet? *** Remember to use launch-node's --config-drive flag when booting new Noble nodes in Rax Classic ** Working through our TODO list (clarkb 20250107) *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-running-todo-list ** Moving OpenDev Synchronous Communication to Matrix (clarkb 20250520) *** https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/infra-specs/+/954826 Spec outlining the motivation and plan for Matrix trialing ** Pre PTG Planning (clarkb 20250624) *** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-preptg-october-2025 Planning happening in this document *** Clarkb has added a number of topic Ideas. Please add more. *** What about timing? Maybe three two hour blocks Tuesday-Thursday? ** Service Coordinator Election Planning (clarkb 20250729) *** Nomination Period open from August 5, 2025 to August 19, 2025. If necessary we will hold an election from August 20, 2025 to August 27, 2025. All date ranges and times will be in UTC. *** https://lists.opendev.org/archives/list/service-discuss@lists.opendev.org/t… *** Clarkb is more than happy to support someone new in the role. Please reach out if there are questions or interest. ** Loss of upstream Debian bullseye-backports mirror (fungi 20250805) *** https://review.opendev.org/956497 temporarily ignore undefinedtarget *** the workaround isn't too bad, but we need to make a longer-term decision about our mirror contents and the configure-mirrors role ** Adding Ansible 11 to Zuul (corvus 20250805) *** Zuul is growing support for Ansible 11 and dropping Ansible 8 *** What is our rollout plan for OpenDev's Zuul deployment and its tenants? ** Gitea 1.24.4 Upgrade (clarkb 20250805) *** https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/blob/v1.24.4/CHANGELOG.md ** Etherpad 2.4.2 Upgrade (clarkb 20250805) *** https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/v2.4.2/CHANGELOG.md * Open discussion

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