October 2019 - Zuul-discuss - lists.opendev.org

Increasing project visibility
by Jeremy Stanley 05 Feb '20

05 Feb '20

With AnsibleFest just around the corner, I'm looking forward to seeing lots of you again. As many on this list are probably already aware, there will be a Zuul booth and I expect to spend a fair amount of time there talking to new folks about what Zuul is and why I think it's so amazing. I hear there will be some talks there which mention Zuul as well, so hopefully that helps spread the word to even more attendees. This got me thinking about how growing Zuul depends on growing our community around it, but to do that people need to know it exists in the first place. Speaking engagements and talking to folks at conferences are great ways, we have a slick looking Web site, some members of the community write articles or get interviewed about cool things they've done with Zuul, we're featured prominently in OSF marketing materials and newsletters... but what else can we do to get out the message, and how can we tell what's working to reach our future community and what isn't? Let's see what more we can come up with! Who's got suggestions? -- Jeremy Stanley

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Fetch roles improvement to enable running zuul-jobs on kubectl connection
by Tristan Cacqueray 24 Jan '20

24 Jan '20

Hello folks, I have been working on supporting kubectl connection for zuul-jobs. The issue is that Ansible synchronize module doesn't work[0]. One solution would be to include the fix in Zuul library[1], but that's not ideal because zuul's synchronize would be slightly different. Alternatively we can synchronize files using oc rsync[2] command but that can't be done from untrusted context. Thus we need to adapt every fetch roles to not perform the synchronize task, and instead rely on the generic fetch-output role. As a first step I added a zuul_use_fetch_output toggle to enable the new behavior, but we should consider enforcing the fetch-output job and make it the default behavior. Indeed It is much easier to copy or link file to ~/zuul-output and let the base job retrieve and publish instead of having each fetch roles bother with running synchronize to zuul.executor.work_root or log_root. A zuul_use_fetch_output toggle implementation is proposed[3] along with a third-party-ci build that demonstrates a full tox-py36[4] job running in a container. Regards, -Tristan [0]: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/62107 [1]: https://review.opendev.org/681553 [2]: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/631402/6/roles/prepare-workspace-openshift/t… [3]: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:zuul-jobs-with-kubectl [4]: https://review.opendev.org/682049

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Zuul at FOSDEM
by Thierry Carrez 28 Oct '19

28 Oct '19

Hi everyone, There is a CI/CD devroom at FOSDEM (Feb 1-2, 2020 in Brussels): https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2019q4/002880.html Zuul would be a great match for the crowd there. Trying to avoid duplicates... Is anyone planning to attend and present? -- Thierry Carrez

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Zuul statistics on the Train dev cycle
by Matthieu Huin 25 Oct '19

25 Oct '19

Hello, I'd be curious to get some stats on the Train dev cycle from Zuul's standpoint. For example: * Amount of jobs run by Zuul * Amount of nodes managed by Nodepool * Amount of failed gate builds, maybe also as a ratio of failed/total gate builds: this would give an idea (assuming the false negatives are rare) of how critical speculative merging is for OpenStack * Amount of patches with cross-repo dependencies I assume most of these can be computed from the SQL reporter data (granted you have access to that). Has anybody tried to get these stats? If not, would anybody want to help me play around with the data and see what we can come up with? Cheers, -- Matthieu Huin Senior Software Developper Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com> <https://red.ht/sig>

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Feedback on Airship pilot project
by Jeremy Stanley 16 Oct '19

16 Oct '19

Hi fellow Zuulies, The Airship project will start its confirmation process with the OSF Board of Directors at the Board meeting[1] Tuesday next week. A draft of the slide deck[2] they plan to present is available for reference. Per the confirmation guidelines[3], the OSF Board of directors will take into account the feedback from representative bodies of existing confirmed Open Infrastructure Projects (Zuul, OpenStack and Kata) when evaluating Airship for confirmation. You may recall this process from when we did it for Zuul not *that* long ago. ;) Particularly worth calling out, guideline #4 "Open collaboration" asserts the following: Project behaves as a good neighbor to other confirmed and pilot projects. If you have any observations/interactions with the Airship project which could serve as useful examples for how these projects do or do not meet this and other guidelines, please provide them on the etherpad[4] ASAP. If possible, include a citation with links to substantiate your feedback. I'll assemble this feedback and send it to the Board (via the public foundation mailing list) for consideration before their meeting next week. [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2019-October/002800.html [2] https://www.airshipit.org/collateral/AirshipConfirmation-Review-for-the-OSF… [3] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/OSFProjectConfirmatio… [4] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuul-community-airship-confirmation-feedba… -- Jeremy Stanley

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Common Questions from Ansiblefest
by Jimmy McArthur 16 Oct '19

16 Oct '19

We recently attended Ansiblefest in Atlanta and Zuul had a booth there. It was a great opportunity to meet with existing and potential Zuulies. Some common questions popped up over and over again, so I wanted to crowd source some answers that we could place on our FAQ: * How does Zuul compare to: ** Jenkins ** Molecule ** Tower * Is Zuul a replacement for Jenkins? * Does it work with GitLab? I believe those were the majors. Let me know if you're able to contribute some responses Cheers, Jimmy

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OSF booth at KubeCon+CloudNativeCon in San Diego
by denise＠openstack.org 15 Oct '19

15 Oct '19

Hello Everyone, We wanted to let you know that the OpenStack Foundation will have a booth at the upcoming KubeCon+CloudNativeCon event in San Diego, CA on November 18-21, 2019. We are in booth #S23 and we will be featuring the OpenStack Foundation in addition to all the projects - Airship, Kata Containers, StarlingX, OpenStack and Zuul. At the booth we will have stickers and educational collateral about each project to distribute. We would like to invite you to help us in the following areas: Represent your project by staffing the OSF booth If you can spare 1 hour/day (or any time at all!) to represent your specific project in the OSF booth Here is the [ link ]( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mZzK0GHm9OQ0IL9njTWLxPLuAeR6jqmyeM6… ) to the google doc to sign up Project Demos in the OSF booth If you are interested in delivering a project-specific demo in the OSF booth, please contact [ Denise ]( http://denise@openstack.org ) Looking forward to seeing all of you in San Diego! Best regards, OSF Marketing team Denise, Claire, Allison and Ashlee

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Ansible version changes to Zuul
by Paul Belanger 11 Oct '19

11 Oct '19

Greetings! This came up again today in #openstack-infra, which reminded me to send this email. I'd like to propose we make the following changes to Zuul to increase the versions of Ansible we are supporting. For example: Remove support for ansible 2.5: https://review.opendev.org/650431/ We have marked Ansible 2.5 deprecated for some time, and the Ansible project move 2.5 branch to EOL 6 months ago. I believe it is time for Zuul to also drop it. Switch ansible_default to 2.8: https://review.opendev.org/676695/ Both zuul.ansible.com and Zuul tenant on zuul.opendev.org have been running Ansible 2.8 for a while now. I don't believe we've seen any issues related to Ansible 2.8 (but I could be mistaken). I believe it is somewhat safe to default the version of Ansible to 2.8 now. This also marks Ansible 2.6 as deprecated, as it will move into EOL upstream in the next month when Ansible 2.9 is released. WIP: Support Ansible 2.9: https://review.opendev.org/674854/ Finally, with Ansible 2.9 to be released at the end of the month, I think it would be fantastic if we could also do a same day release of Zuul. This only adds Ansible 2.9 support, but doesn't change the default version used by jobs. Reviews on this would be helpful! For all above, I think we should try to over-communicate the changes, maybe email to announce list, then in 1 or 2 weeks work to merge them. Thoughts? Paul

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Fwd: Important Shanghai PTG Information
by Kendall Nelson 09 Oct '19

09 Oct '19

Wanted to make sure you all saw this too :) While I realize Zuul hasn't planned to meet, if any of you will be in Shanghai, this info is important. -Kendall (diablo_rojo) ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Kendall Waters <kendall(a)openstack.org> Date: Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:09 AM Subject: Important Shanghai PTG Information To: OpenStack Discuss <openstack-discuss(a)lists.openstack.org> Hello Everyone! As I’m sure you already know, the Shanghai PTG is going to be a very different event from PTGs in the past so we wanted to spell out the differences so you can be better prepared. Registration & Badges Registration for the PTG is included in the cost of the Summit. It is a single registration for both events. Since there is a single registration for the event, there is also one badge for both events. You will pick it up when you check in for the Summit and keep it until the end of the PTG. The Space Rooms The space we are contracted to have for the PTG will be laid out differently. We only have a couple dedicated rooms which are allocated to those groups with the largest numbers of people. The rest of the teams will be in a single larger room together. To help people gather teams in an organized fashion, we will be naming the arrangements of tables after OpenStack releases (Austin, Bexar, Cactus, etc). Food & Beverage Rules Unfortunately, the venue does not allow ANY food or drink in any of the rooms. This includes coffee and tea. Lunch will be from 12:30 to 1:30 in the beautiful pre-function space outside of the Blue Hall. Moving Furniture You are allowed to! Yay! If the table arrangements your project/team/group lead requested don’t work for you, feel free to move the furniture around. That being said, try to keep the tables marked with their names so that others can find them during their time slots. There will also be extra chairs stacked in the corner if your team needs them. Hours This venue is particularly strict about the hours we are allowed to be there. The PTG is scheduled to run from 9:00 in the morning to 4:30 in the evening. Its reasonably likely that if you try to come early or stay late, security will talk to you. So please be kind and respectfully leave if they ask you to. Resources Power While we have been working with the venue to accomodate our power needs, we won’t have as many power strips as we have had in the past. For this reason, we want to remind everyone to charge all their devices every night and share the power strips we do have during the day. Sharing is caring! Flipcharts While we won’t have projection available, we will have some flipcharts around. Each dedicated room will have one flipchart and the big main room will have a few to share. Please feel free to grab one when you need it, but put it back when you are finished so that others can use it if they need. Again, sharing is caring! :) Onboarding A lot of the usual PTG attendees won’t be able to attend this event, but we will also have a lot of new faces. With this in mind, we have decided to add project onboarding to the PTG so that the new contributors can get up to speed with the projects meeting that week. The teams gathering that will be doing onboarding will have that denoted on the print and digital schedule on site. They have also been encouraged to promote when they will be doing their onboarding via the PTGBot and on the mailing lists. If you have any questions, please let us know! Cheers, The Kendalls (wendallkaters & diablo_rojo)

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[all] Final PTG Schedule
by Kendall Nelson 07 Oct '19

07 Oct '19

Hello Everyone! After a few weeks of shuffling and changes, we have a final schedule! It can be seen here on the 'Schedule' tab[1]. -Kendall (diablo_rojo) [1] https://www.openstack.org/PTG

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