From ildiko at openstack.org Tue Apr 3 14:05:54 2018 From: ildiko at openstack.org (Ildiko Vancsa) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 16:05:54 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Meeting is on Message-ID: <275EEB91-7106-47DA-AFAB-985DBF663CE2@openstack.org> Hi All, We have our meeting starting now if you are interested in joining in! Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/777719876 We also have an IRC channel: #edge-computing-group and will have a few lines of minutes as well Thanks, Ildikó From Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com Tue Apr 3 14:32:13 2018 From: Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com (Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:32:13 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Meeting is on In-Reply-To: <275EEB91-7106-47DA-AFAB-985DBF663CE2@openstack.org> References: <275EEB91-7106-47DA-AFAB-985DBF663CE2@openstack.org> Message-ID: <17c95f0f40e64251a5e8c1308998d321@AUSX13MPS308.AMER.DELL.COM> I will miss it today -----Original Message----- From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko at openstack.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:06 AM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: [Edge-computing] Meeting is on Hi All, We have our meeting starting now if you are interested in joining in! Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/777719876 We also have an IRC channel: #edge-computing-group and will have a few lines of minutes as well Thanks, Ildikó _______________________________________________ Edge-computing mailing list Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing From pramchan at yahoo.com Tue Apr 3 14:57:21 2018 From: pramchan at yahoo.com (prakash RAMCHANDRAN) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Edge-computing] Edge Computing inputs from ons 2018 at LA References: <1291735866.1120265.1522767442701.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1291735866.1120265.1522767442701@mail.yahoo.com> Here are two items to note from my side ONAP1. Has started a new project on edge project. https://wiki.onap.org/plugins/servlet/mobile#content/view/28379482 2.  ONAP is looking for a room at Vancouver Summit to get feedback for the Beijing release which is their goal. What and how this works let me know to coordinate with Chris Donley 3. Slides from Akraino  See attachmentm Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ONS ONAP100-200 Slides.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 6060810 bytes Desc: not available URL: From beth.cohen at verizon.com Tue Apr 3 15:01:06 2018 From: beth.cohen at verizon.com (beth.cohen at verizon.com) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 15:01:06 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] More information on Akraino Message-ID: I have attached the brief slide deck we reviewed and please do not hesitate to contact me. The attachment mostly covers Intel contributions and not those of others; but does reflect the current plans/architectures as being discussed by the current contributors. 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For slides 5, does that mean Akraino do not plan use OpenStack in future? 发件人: beth.cohen at verizon.com [mailto:beth.cohen at verizon.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月3日 23:01 收件人: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org 主题: [Edge-computing] More information on Akraino I have attached the brief slide deck we reviewed and please do not hesitate to contact me. The attachment mostly covers Intel contributions and not those of others; but does reflect the current plans/architectures as being discussed by the current contributors. Glenn Glenn Seiler, Vice President Product Management and Strategy Software Defined Infrastructure Business Unit Phone: +1-510-749-2122 Mobile: +1-831-334-4108 Email: glenn.seiler at windriver.com , www.windriver.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you for sharing this. > For slides 5, does that mean Akraino do not plan use OpenStack in future? > > 发件人: beth.cohen at verizon.com [mailto:beth.cohen at verizon.com ] > 发送时间: 2018年4月3日 23:01 > 收件人: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > 主题: [Edge-computing] More information on Akraino > > <> > > I have attached the brief slide deck we reviewed and please do not hesitate to contact me. > The attachment mostly covers Intel contributions and not those of others; but does reflect the current plans/architectures as being discussed by the current contributors. > > Glenn > > Glenn Seiler, Vice President Product Management and Strategy > Software Defined Infrastructure Business Unit > Phone: +1-510-749-2122 Mobile: +1-831-334-4108 > Email: glenn.seiler at windriver.com , www.windriver.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fuqiao at chinamobile.com Wed Apr 4 04:31:09 2018 From: fuqiao at chinamobile.com (Fu Qiao) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 12:31:09 +0800 Subject: [Edge-computing] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiAg562U5aSNOiAgTW9yZSBpbmZv?= =?utf-8?q?rmation_on_Akraino?= In-Reply-To: References: <00a601d3cbc5$1ee55c20$5cb01460$@chinamobile.com> Message-ID: <00be01d3cbcd$c183a240$448ae6c0$@chinamobile.com> Yes, but that is from my understanding the intel contribution to Akraino. I am kind of comparing slides 4 with slide 5, it seems they have openstack control for slides 4, which is the initial architecture, but for slides 5, no openstack for future target. Don’t know if I understand it correctly… 发件人: Jonathan Gershater [mailto:jgershater at gmail.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月4日 11:43 收件人: Fu Qiao 抄送: Beth Cohen ; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org 主题: Re: [Edge-computing] 答复: More information on Akraino Titanium openstack is in slide 6 On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Fu Qiao > wrote: Hi, Beth. Thank you for sharing this. For slides 5, does that mean Akraino do not plan use OpenStack in future? 发件人: beth.cohen at verizon.com [ mailto:beth.cohen at verizon.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月3日 23:01 收件人: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org 主题: [Edge-computing] More information on Akraino I have attached the brief slide deck we reviewed and please do not hesitate to contact me. The attachment mostly covers Intel contributions and not those of others; but does reflect the current plans/architectures as being discussed by the current contributors. Glenn Glenn Seiler, Vice President Product Management and Strategy Software Defined Infrastructure Business Unit Phone: +1-510-749-2122 Mobile: +1-831-334-4108 Email: glenn.seiler at windriver.com, www.windriver.com _______________________________________________ Edge-computing mailing list Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, Adrien > On 04 Apr 2018, at 06:31, Fu Qiao wrote: > > Yes, but that is from my understanding the intel contribution to Akraino. I am kind of comparing slides 4 with slide 5, it seems they have openstack control for slides 4, which is the initial architecture, but for slides 5, no openstack for future target. Don’t know if I understand it correctly… > > 发件人: Jonathan Gershater [mailto:jgershater at gmail.com] > 发送时间: 2018年4月4日 11:43 > 收件人: Fu Qiao > 抄送: Beth Cohen ; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > 主题: Re: [Edge-computing] 答复: More information on Akraino > > Titanium openstack is in slide 6 > > >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Fu Qiao > wrote: >> >> Hi, Beth. Thank you for sharing this. >> For slides 5, does that mean Akraino do not plan use OpenStack in future? >> >> 发件人: beth.cohen at verizon.com [mailto:beth.cohen at verizon.com ] >> 发送时间: 2018年4月3日 23:01 >> 收件人: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> 主题: [Edge-computing] More information on Akraino >> >> <> >> >> I have attached the brief slide deck we reviewed and please do not hesitate to contact me. >> The attachment mostly covers Intel contributions and not those of others; but does reflect the current plans/architectures as being discussed by the current contributors. >> >> Glenn >> >> Glenn Seiler, Vice President Product Management and Strategy >> Software Defined Infrastructure Business Unit >> Phone: +1-510-749-2122 Mobile: +1-831-334-4108 >> Email: glenn.seiler at windriver.com , www.windriver.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edge-computing mailing list >> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kk0563 at att.com Wed Apr 4 16:27:54 2018 From: kk0563 at att.com (KATHIRVEL, KANDAN) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:27:54 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiAgW0VdIG1lZXQtdXAgYXQgT3Bl?= =?utf-8?q?n_networking_Summit_LA_on_Tue_27h_March_5=2E45_PM_-_6=2E30_PM_P?= =?utf-8?q?ST?= In-Reply-To: <3E3204E7-2523-49A4-B049-CD4408F31C3C@openstack.org> References: <2103366710.4864368.1521656243035.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2103366710.4864368.1521656243035@mail.yahoo.com> <966224af382c4519b424bbde8607900c@OMZP1LUMXCA07.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> <009501d3c1a2$a04e11d0$e0ea3570$@chinamobile.com> <509316271.423382.1522169669120@mail.yahoo.com> <3E3204E7-2523-49A4-B049-CD4408F31C3C@openstack.org> Message-ID: Many of you requested for the Akraino slides that were presented at ONS. Arpit and I have uploaded our Akraino presentation here http://sched.co/Dm4U Regards Kandan Kathirvel Director – Cloud Strategy & Architecture Domain 2.0 Architecture and Design AT&T, Middletown, NJ - 07748 Phone - 7324202211 From: Claire Massey Date: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 1:03 PM To: prakash RAMCHANDRAN Cc: "Avula, Niranjan B" , "edge-computing at lists.openstack.org" Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] 答复: [E] meet-up at Open networking Summit LA on Tue 27h March 5.45 PM - 6.30 PM PST Hi all, Per Lauren’s update - Today’s F2F meeting at ONS has been relocated to the *Los Feliz room* on the 5th Floor. Please head there at 5:45pm. Thanks! Claire On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:54 AM, prakash RAMCHANDRAN > wrote: Chris, Looks to me, it's logical, as at least 6-8 core and some additional community people are meeting f2f at Openstack booth this evening (5.45 pm - 6.30 pm PDT) at Openstack booth at ONS Summit on 5th Floor at "Intercontinental Los Angeles Downtown, Los Angeles". But will let Claire confirm on that. One thing I can do is try provide the minutes of discussions we have after the f2f meeting here at LA. Agenda: Meet & Greet F2F discussions on topic(s) of interest to drive Edge Cloud efforts of Openstack Architecture learning from ONS (From different racks) - ONAP/OPNFV - Edge Cloud Descriptor(ECP) like VNFD. Architecture - Developer Wiki - Confluence https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/ONAP+Project+Specific+Breakouts (Open Access Slide) Edge Projects that have started (Beth Cohen) ??? [Image removed by sender.] Architecture - Developer Wiki - Confluence See the booth picture below. Thanks Prakash On Friday, March 23, 2018, 6:52:48 AM PDT, Christopher Price > wrote: Hi Claire, Should we cancel the call? I assume there will be people who will not make it to the event who might want to join a bridge to participate/follow the discussion. It should be a solvable issue, but I guess first it would be good to know if there is anyone who would join a conf-bridge remotely at that time. / Chris From: Claire Massey > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 8:57:02 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Cc: Avula, Niranjan B; prakash RAMCHANDRAN; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] 答复: [E] meet-up at Open networking Summit LA on Tue 27h March 5.45 PM - 6.30 PM PST Hi All, So glad many of you are getting together in person at ONS next week! Just wanted to flag that the in person meeting time next Tuesday, March 27, overlaps with our standing edge call - so we’re going to cancel the call next week and resume again on April 3. Thanks, Claire On Mar 22, 2018, at 2:50 AM, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: +1 Gergely Csatari gergely.csatari at nokia.com Br, Gerg0 From: Fu Qiao [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 6:57 AM To: 'Kumar Skand Priya, Viswanath V' >; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; 'Yamei' > Cc: 'Avula, Niranjan B' >; 'prakash RAMCHANDRAN' > Subject: [Edge-computing] 答复: [E] meet-up at Open networking Summit LA on Tue 27h March 5.45 PM - 6.30 PM PST +1 Qiao Fu fuqiao at chinamobile.com Yamei Fan fanyamei at chinamobile.com 发件人: Kumar Skand Priya, Viswanath V [mailto:viswanath.kumarskandpriya at verizon.com] 发送时间: 2018年3月22日 11:50 收件人: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org 抄送: Avula, Niranjan B >; prakash RAMCHANDRAN > 主题: Re: [Edge-computing] [E] meet-up at Open networking Summit LA on Tue 27h March 5.45 PM - 6.30 PM PST +1 Viswanath Kumar Skand Priya - viswanath.kumarskandpriya at verizon.com Niranjan Avula - Niranjan.Avula at verizonwireless.com BR, Viswa [Image removed by sender.] Viswanath Kumar Skand Priya Architect Verizon India ( VDSI ) On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:12 AM, > wrote: Hi all, This is an invite to all edge-compute group participants attending ONS at Los Angeles next week.(week of 3/25/2018) After feedback and looking at schedules the best time I have arrived is Tuesday March 27th evening. You may forward this to individuals who are interested in helping us in this effort. Here is plan: Venue: Openstack booth at Expo Hall Date & Time: Tuesday 27th, 5.45Pm-6.30 PM Agenda: Meet & Greet F2F discussions on topic(s) of interest to drive Edge Cloud efforts of Openstack Architecture learning from ONS +1 Edge Projects that have started Please send your participation with +1 and your name, number to connect when you are at Summit. Add any topics you want to discuss as I have added architecture learning above. Add any links to this you want us to review along the agenda. Thanks R.Prakash Independent Board of Director (Openstack) Participants: 1. Prakash Ramchandran - pramchan at yahoo.com (408) 406-5810 (Can text me at Summit on this phone) 2. Beth Cohen – beth.cohen at verizon.com or bfcohen at luthcomputer.com (617) 721-7256 (Can text me at Summit on this phone) [Image removed by sender. Verizon] Beth Cohen NFV/SDN Network Product Strategy O +781-466-2055 | M +781-434-8553 beth.cohen at verizon.com [Image removed by sender. Twitter] [Image removed by sender. Instagram] _______________________________________________ Edge-computing mailing list Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.openstack.org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_edge-2Dcomputing&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=9F3pNUkzjE-2v1eTClkRVakDRN8GH7Bm-wt1lWkxoUyyDORTqf5MxNO_GrMBs0gZ&m=Tr4sVen8AlJOOC4xBTvp10YvBwUpFeqoXtpwsz47TPs&s=bk5JvMhRGHZpdhemCZkJfZGZx80ERCkeBONU9wl6iQs&e= _______________________________________________ Edge-computing mailing list Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We would like to hear your views, especially the possible VIMs that are candidates for edge-clouds, thin edges and centralization of control (out of edges). On centralization : In the slide you are referring to, it was deliberately kept generic. Keeping diverse workload-types (VMs/Docker containers/Kata Containers) sharing same compute nodes, Uniform networking across VMs & containers and keeping WAN latencies in mind, we need to carefully choose right workload-scheduler as part of centralization of control. Would like to hear any thoughts and work done on these aspects. There are few open source candidates – Openstack, K8S and CIAO etc.. BTW, it was great to hear from Jonathan and Beth at ONS that openstack edge-computing group is not just married to Openstack, but open for right candidates for edge use cases. Thanks Srini From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr] Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 2:05 AM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] 答复: 答复: More information on Akraino Hi all, Slide 5 looks to be a different deployment scenario where all control services seem to be deployed higher in the infrastructure, i.e. Regional Cloud Controller (in Slide 4, each edge node looks to be fully independent) Slide 6 is difficult to understand from the locality viewpoint as there is no information regarding how/where each service will be deployed. It would be great if we can get additional information. Best regards, Adrien On 04 Apr 2018, at 06:31, Fu Qiao > wrote: Yes, but that is from my understanding the intel contribution to Akraino. I am kind of comparing slides 4 with slide 5, it seems they have openstack control for slides 4, which is the initial architecture, but for slides 5, no openstack for future target. Don’t know if I understand it correctly… 发件人: Jonathan Gershater [mailto:jgershater at gmail.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月4日 11:43 收件人: Fu Qiao > 抄送: Beth Cohen >; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org 主题: Re: [Edge-computing] 答复: More information on Akraino Titanium openstack is in slide 6 On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Fu Qiao > wrote: Hi, Beth. Thank you for sharing this. For slides 5, does that mean Akraino do not plan use OpenStack in future? 发件人: beth.cohen at verizon.com [mailto:beth.cohen at verizon.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月3日 23:01 收件人: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org 主题: [Edge-computing] More information on Akraino I have attached the brief slide deck we reviewed and please do not hesitate to contact me. The attachment mostly covers Intel contributions and not those of others; but does reflect the current plans/architectures as being discussed by the current contributors. 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If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a nascent project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be heading in the right direction of creating consistency. In short, I don't know... It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe the needs and target behaviors by then. / Chris ________________________________ From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Hi, There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? Thanks, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Tue Apr 10 14:39:33 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 14:39:33 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions In-Reply-To: References: <4293232A-9493-4E3E-8BCC-9510AA36546D@openstack.org> <8D264FD7-AF30-4557-9ED7-9FC29614F744@windriver.com> Message-ID: Hi, I’ve added the requirements and updated the page based ont he coments: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG Some questions: * I’ve added some MVS / Non-MVS classification to the features. Please check and comment them (is there a way to comment this wiki somehow?) * In the „Operability data aggregation data provider part” section I could not figure out what data we would like to aggregate. Can you please help in this? * In the „Remote control controlling part” section I could not figure out what operation we would like to issue. Can you please help in this? * I described the synchronisation of the keystone data as it is done by a new service and not by a partitioned keystone. Should I update the descriptions according to what is described in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems , line 94? Any comments to any other things on the wiki are welcome. Thanks, Gerg0 From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:33 AM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi See my comments in line. On 29 Mar 2018, at 19:25, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, Thanks for the comments. Going inline with the reactions. From: Waines, Greg [mailto:Greg.Waines at windriver.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 12:01 PM Some initial comments: * Features and requirements * Initially talks about “... feature/requirement discussions on two levels ...” * top->down feature oriented discussion and * bottom->up missing requirements of existing mechanisms discussion, * However I only see notes on the ‘top->down feature oriented discussion. [G0]: Yes, the requirements are still to be added. FYI, we had a couple of exchange between folks working in the FEMDC SiG. For the moment, we reduced the number of levels to 5. Level 1: operations (admins/devops) that include on single site (local/remote) Level 2: operations (admins/devops) that include several sites (collaborations between sites) + For Level 2, there are several use-cases, such as bootiing a VM on site A considering a VMI from site B, booting two VMs on distinct sites and interconnecting them, make a provisioning request on site A but site B should satisfy the request because there is no available resources on site A, … + Please consider that all operations that can be satisfied by contacting a site directly without requiring modifications or extensions within the codebase are then considered as Level 1 operations. Level 3: Level 2 operations but operations should consider intermittent networks (such as split brain situations) Level 4: Level 3 operations but across several versions of OpenStack (L4.1) and accros distinct software stack (L4.2). L4.2 may include Kubernetes… Level 5: Level 3 but between distinct operators. We are currently writing a small report and should be able to deliver soon. In addition to simplifying the first classification, the goal is to also try to identify what are the top priorities, in particular in Level 2. * Features * Base assumptions for the features * Why do we have the statement that “edge site is composed of at least 5 servers” ? * Edge sites should be scalable from a single all-in-one server to at least 10s of servers (maybe more) [G0]: This statement is from line 5 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-gap-analysis I tend to agree with you on the lower number, like an edge site can be a single machine. This is one thing what I’ve learned from Beth yesterday. I correct it to one. If there are objections from other we can discuss 😊 Would it be preferable to clarify what do we mean by one server. - we can consider one server as a compute/storage node (i.e. the control services are deployed higher in the hierarchy) - we can consider one server that host an all-in-one OpenStack but we should probably then discussed what are the mandatory mechanisms we would like to have in this all-in-one server. Maybe we can organize a short telco (or irc-meeting) to go through the current wiki page. My two cents, Adrien * Feature Levels * Maybe just me ... but I am not familiar with the use of the term ‘requirement levels’ for increasing complexity of requirements * I think this also caused some confusion at the Dublin PTG meetings * I would suggest * A prioritized list of requirements, * Where the top N requirements on that list would represent the definition of the MANDATORY / Minimum-Viable-Solution(MVS) set of requirements. [G0]: Okay I will reorganize the list based on this. I will look for your comments once I’m ready. * General comments on Level 1 thru Level 7 * Generally I think there is too much focus on the “operational” requirements * E.g. creating VMs, creating network, migrating VMs, etc. * I think the high-priority/MVS requirements should be more focused on the “administrative” requirements * E.g. managing various admin type configurations across all the edge clouds, like users, projects, images, flavors, security groups, quotas, etc. * I think this administrative work alone, would be a good significant first step. [G0]: I think both of them are important and we should focus on both of them. Features are describing the high level target while the requirements will describe the concrete issues (like managing of the admin config). I agree however, that solving the synchronization of administrative data would be an impressive achiecement. Br, Gerg0 Greg. From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > Date: Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 9:05 AM To: Jonathan Bryce >, "edge-computing at lists.openstack.org" > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi, As I promised I started to put the conclusions of the Dublin discussions into t wiki page:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG I'm far from being ready, but in case of any comments please do not hesitate to adit the pages or indicate your comment to me. The main aim of this excercise is to collect the results of our discussions in a space what is less volatile and a bit more organized than an increasing number of etherpads. Br, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Bryce [mailto:jonathan at openstack.org] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:20 PM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi everyone, As a reminder we have a call schedule for tomorrow at 0700PDT/0900CDT/1400UTC. I would like to get into a discussion on how to begin implementing a POC for the new sync service project we started discussing in Dublin. I tried to consolidate the notes that had happened in various places starting on line 91 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems If you are interested in helping to kick off development of this project, please join us tomorrow morning: Meeting Link:https://zoom.us/j/777719876 Thanks, Jonathan On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Christopher Price > wrote: lol, I like it. If we go with that name I'm using "rex" as an abbreviation. ;) From: Waines, Greg > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 11:50:06 AM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); lebre.adrien at free.fr; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Yeah was some interesting discussions. I thought we made the most progress on Tuesday Morning where we worked thru “Alan’s Problems”, and were able to put down some clear requirements and even some stakes in the ground wrt the beginnings of a strawman architecture. My notes and view of those initial requirements and initial strawman architecture that we discussed are below: ( ... feel free to throw harpoons at my interpretation ...) First I’d like to suggest that we do the initial work on this New King Bird with the “goal” of NOT changing ANY existing service (like keystone, or glance, or ...). I think it would allow us to move forward more quickly ... and is not that restrictive wrt being able to meet the requirements below. • multi-region solution • i.e. central region and many edge regions • where region == geographically edge site • For larger solutions, this would extend to multiple levels, e.g. central region à edge region à further-out-edge regions (sites) ... • scaling up to 1,000s of regions/sites eventually • edge region/site can be any size, from small 1-node system to 100s-of-nodes system • a new service runs on central region for configuring/synchronizing/queryingSyncStatusOf system-wide data across all edge regions • referred to in meeting as the "New King Bird" (NKB), • supports REST API for configuring/queryingSyncStatusOf of system wide data across all regions • where system-wide data includes: • users, tenants, VM images (glance) … as discussed in meeting • … and, we never discussed but I would also throw in • nova flavors (& extra specs), nova key pairs, neutron security groups, and • nova and neutron quotas (although that is more complex than simple synchronization if you want quota management across the system/multiple-edge-regions) • will be able to specify sync-policy of 'to ALL edge regions' or 'to specific subset of edge regions', for each item of system-wide data, • synchronization process will retry continuously on failure, • synchronization process will automatically synch data with any newly created/joined edge region, • user will be able to query sync state of system-wide data on all/individual edge regions, • ABC Service in the central region will hold the system-wide ABC data to be synchronized • e.g. keystone, glance, nova, neutron, … • New King Bird Service will hold the meta data wrt sync-policy and sync-state for system-wide data • For a large multi-level region hierarchy, the New King Bird service would also run on selected edge clouds that would then sync data to further-out-edge regions/sites. And finally, I have to throw out the first new name suggestion for the ‘new king bird’ project, how about Tyrannus ( i.e. a genus of large insect-eating birds, commonly known as kingbirds)? let me know what you think, Greg. From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 1:58 PM To: "lebre.adrien at free.fr" >, "edge-computing at lists.openstack.org" > Subject: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi, Thanks Adrian for facilitating the workshop. It was a very interesting and diverse discussion 😉 I can help in organizing the notes after the PTG workshop. We used 3 etherpads: - PTG schedule: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-ptg-dublin - Gap analyzis: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-gap-analysis - Alans problems: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems In the PTG schedule and the Gap analyzis we have high level discussions mostly about what we would like to do while in Alans problems we have detailed notes about some parts of how we would like to solve some of the problems. I think both of these are valuable information and we should somehow have the following things: - a description about what we would like to achieve. Maybe in some other format than a list of etherpads. - a list of concrete requirements to specific projects (being existing or something new) - maybe some prototypes based on the Tuesday afternoon discussions for the keystone data and image distribution (by the way can someone post the picture of THE PLAN?) Any opinions? 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URL: From rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 14:39:42 2018 From: rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com (Brian Rosmaita) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 10:39:42 -0400 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very helpful: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. cheers, brian On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price wrote: > Hi Gergely, > > > I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. > > > If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and > leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config to > determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. > > Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a nascent > project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be heading > in the right direction of creating consistency. > > > In short, I don't know... > > > It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we will > likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe the needs > and target behaviors by then. > > > / Chris > > ________________________________ > From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM > To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin > Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation > > > Hi, > > > > There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image synchronization > between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. > > > > I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features for the > future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . > > > > Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? > > > > Thanks, > > Gerg0 > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > From lebre.adrien at free.fr Tue Apr 10 17:45:23 2018 From: lebre.adrien at free.fr (free) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:45:23 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions In-Reply-To: References: <4293232A-9493-4E3E-8BCC-9510AA36546D@openstack.org> <8D264FD7-AF30-4557-9ED7-9FC29614F744@windriver.com> Message-ID: Hi Gerg0,, Hi All, First of all thanks Gerg0 for your work, it is great to see a consolidation of the different discussions. I have a couple of questions (in particular regarding a couple of acronyms) and I think it would be great to discuss in details some points such as the different levels (as discussed some discussions from the FEMDC SiG led us to consider only 5 levels now, I’m not sure we are right but debating on that can be useful). Could we arrange a dedicated meeting to go through this wiki page? (can be an irc exchange, a webconf….)? How could we progress? Should we go through a blueprint like process? Thanks ad_rien_ BTW, the FEMDC SiG is tomorrow at 15:00 UTC. > On 10 Apr 2018, at 16:39, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: > > Hi, > > I’ve added the requirements and updated the page based ont he coments:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG > > Some questions: > I’ve added some MVS / Non-MVS classification to the features. Please check and comment them (is there a way to comment this wiki somehow?) > In the „Operability data aggregation data provider part” section I could not figure out what data we would like to aggregate. Can you please help in this? > In the „Remote control controlling part” section I could not figure out what operation we would like to issue. Can you please help in this? > I described the synchronisation of the keystone data as it is done by a new service and not by a partitioned keystone. Should I update the descriptions according to what is described in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems , line 94? > > Any comments to any other things on the wiki are welcome. > > Thanks, > Gerg0 >   <> > From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr ] > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:33 AM > To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions > > Hi > > See my comments in line. > > On 29 Mar 2018, at 19:25, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks for the comments. Going inline with the reactions. > > > From: Waines, Greg [mailto:Greg.Waines at windriver.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 12:01 PM > > Some initial comments: > > Features and requirements > Initially talks about “... feature/requirement discussions on two levels ...” > top->down feature oriented discussion and > bottom->up missing requirements of existing mechanisms discussion, > However I only see notes on the ‘top->down feature oriented discussion. > [G0]: Yes, the requirements are still to be added. > > FYI, we had a couple of exchange between folks working in the FEMDC SiG. For the moment, we reduced the number of levels to 5. > Level 1: operations (admins/devops) that include on single site (local/remote) > Level 2: operations (admins/devops) that include several sites (collaborations between sites) > + For Level 2, there are several use-cases, such as bootiing a VM on site A considering a VMI from site B, booting two VMs on distinct sites and interconnecting them, make a provisioning request on site A but site B should satisfy the request because there is no available resources on site A, … > + Please consider that all operations that can be satisfied by contacting a site directly without requiring modifications or extensions within the codebase are then considered as Level 1 operations. > Level 3: Level 2 operations but operations should consider intermittent networks (such as split brain situations) > Level 4: Level 3 operations but across several versions of OpenStack (L4.1) and accros distinct software stack (L4.2). L4.2 may include Kubernetes… > Level 5: Level 3 but between distinct operators. > > We are currently writing a small report and should be able to deliver soon. > In addition to simplifying the first classification, the goal is to also try to identify what are the top priorities, in particular in Level 2. > > > > Features > Base assumptions for the features > Why do we have the statement that “edge site is composed of at least 5 servers” ? > Edge sites should be scalable from a single all-in-one server to at least 10s of servers (maybe more) > [G0]: This statement is from line 5 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-gap-analysis I tend to agree with you on the lower number, like an edge site can be a single machine. This is one thing what I’ve learned from Beth yesterday. > I correct it to one. If there are objections from other we can discuss 😊 > > > > Would it be preferable to clarify what do we mean by one server. > - we can consider one server as a compute/storage node (i.e. the control services are deployed higher in the hierarchy) > - we can consider one server that host an all-in-one OpenStack but we should probably then discussed what are the mandatory mechanisms we would like to have in this all-in-one server. > > > Maybe we can organize a short telco (or irc-meeting) to go through the current wiki page. > > My two cents, > Adrien > > Feature Levels > Maybe just me ... but I am not familiar with the use of the term ‘requirement levels’ for increasing complexity of requirements > I think this also caused some confusion at the Dublin PTG meetings > I would suggest > A prioritized list of requirements, > Where the top N requirements on that list would represent the definition of the MANDATORY / Minimum-Viable-Solution(MVS) set of requirements. > [G0]: Okay I will reorganize the list based on this. I will look for your comments once I’m ready. > > General comments on Level 1 thru Level 7 > Generally I think there is too much focus on the “operational” requirements > E.g. creating VMs, creating network, migrating VMs, etc. > I think the high-priority/MVS requirements should be more focused on the “administrative” requirements > E.g. managing various admin type configurations across all the edge clouds, > like users, projects, images, flavors, security groups, quotas, etc. > I think this administrative work alone, would be a good significant first step. > > [G0]: I think both of them are important and we should focus on both of them. > Features are describing the high level target while the requirements will describe the concrete issues (like managing of the admin config). I agree however, that solving the synchronization of administrative data would be an impressive achiecement. > > Br, > Gerg0 > > Greg. > > > From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > > Date: Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 9:05 AM > To: Jonathan Bryce >, "edge-computing at lists.openstack.org " > > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions > > Hi, > > As I promised I started to put the conclusions of the Dublin discussions into t wiki page:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG > I'm far from being ready, but in case of any comments please do not hesitate to adit the pages or indicate your comment to me. > > The main aim of this excercise is to collect the results of our discussions in a space what is less volatile and a bit more organized than an increasing number of etherpads. > > Br, > Gerg0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Bryce [mailto:jonathan at openstack.org ] > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:20 PM > To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions > > Hi everyone, > > As a reminder we have a call schedule for tomorrow at 0700PDT/0900CDT/1400UTC. I would like to get into a discussion on how to begin implementing a POC for the new sync service project we started discussing in Dublin. > > I tried to consolidate the notes that had happened in various places starting on line 91 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems > > If you are interested in helping to kick off development of this project, please join us tomorrow morning: Meeting Link:https://zoom.us/j/777719876 > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > > > On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Christopher Price > wrote: > lol, I like it. If we go with that name I'm using "rex" as an > abbreviation. ;) > From: Waines, Greg > > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 11:50:06 AM > To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); lebre.adrien at free.fr ; > edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions > > Yeah was some interesting discussions. > > I thought we made the most progress on Tuesday Morning where we worked > thru “Alan’s Problems”, and were able to put down some clear requirements and even some stakes in the ground wrt the beginnings of a strawman architecture. > > My notes and view of those initial requirements and initial strawman architecture that we discussed are below: > ( ... feel free to throw harpoons at my interpretation ...) > > First I’d like to suggest that we do the initial work on this New King Bird with the “goal” of NOT changing ANY existing service (like keystone, or glance, or ...). I think it would allow us to move forward more quickly ... and is not that restrictive wrt being able to meet the requirements below. > > • multi-region solution > • i.e. central region and many edge regions > • where region == geographically edge site > • For larger solutions, this would extend to multiple levels, > e.g. central region à edge region à further-out-edge regions (sites) ... > • scaling up to 1,000s of regions/sites eventually > • edge region/site can be any size, from small 1-node system to 100s-of-nodes system > • a new service runs on central region for > configuring/synchronizing/queryingSyncStatusOf system-wide data across all edge regions > • referred to in meeting as the "New King Bird" (NKB), > • supports REST API for configuring/queryingSyncStatusOf of system wide data across all regions > • where system-wide data includes: > • users, tenants, VM images (glance) … as discussed in meeting > • … and, we never discussed but I would also throw in > • nova flavors (& extra specs), nova key pairs, neutron security groups, and > • nova and neutron quotas (although that is more complex than > simple synchronization if you want quota management across the system/multiple-edge-regions) > • will be able to specify sync-policy of 'to ALL edge regions' or > 'to specific subset of edge regions', for each item of system-wide data, > • synchronization process will retry continuously on failure, > • synchronization process will automatically synch data with any newly created/joined edge region, > • user will be able to query sync state of system-wide data on all/individual edge regions, > • ABC Service in the central region will hold the system-wide ABC data to be synchronized > • e.g. keystone, glance, nova, neutron, … > • New King Bird Service will hold the meta data wrt sync-policy and sync-state for system-wide data > • For a large multi-level region hierarchy, the New King Bird service > would also run on selected edge clouds that would then sync data to further-out-edge regions/sites. > > And finally, I have to throw out the first new name suggestion for the > ‘new king bird’ project, how about Tyrannus ( i.e. a genus of large insect-eating birds, commonly known as kingbirds)? > > let me know what you think, > Greg. > > > > From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > > > Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 1:58 PM > To: "lebre.adrien at free.fr " >, > "edge-computing at lists.openstack.org " > > > Subject: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions > > Hi, > > Thanks Adrian for facilitating the workshop. It was a very interesting > and diverse discussion 😉 > > I can help in organizing the notes after the PTG workshop. > > We used 3 etherpads: > - PTG schedule: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-ptg-dublin > - Gap analyzis: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-gap-analysis > - Alans problems: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems > > In the PTG schedule and the Gap analyzis we have high level discussions mostly about what we would like to do while in Alans problems we have detailed notes about some parts of how we would like to solve some of the problems. > > I think both of these are valuable information and we should somehow have the following things: > - a description about what we would like to achieve. Maybe in some other format than a list of etherpads. > - a list of concrete requirements to specific projects (being existing or something new) > - maybe some prototypes based on the Tuesday afternoon discussions for the keystone data and image distribution (by the way can someone post the picture of THE PLAN?) > > Any opinions? > > Br, > Gerg0 > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lebre.adrien at free.fr Tue Apr 10 17:47:01 2018 From: lebre.adrien at free.fr (free) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:47:01 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions In-Reply-To: References: <4293232A-9493-4E3E-8BCC-9510AA36546D@openstack.org> <8D264FD7-AF30-4557-9ED7-9FC29614F744@windriver.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Wed Apr 11 09:31:23 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 09:31:23 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions In-Reply-To: References: <4293232A-9493-4E3E-8BCC-9510AA36546D@openstack.org> <8D264FD7-AF30-4557-9ED7-9FC29614F744@windriver.com> Message-ID: Hi, I’m open to discuss any comment sor questions in mail or over #edge-computing-group. We can even set up an hour meeting for this on #edge-computing-group. #levels: One of the comments I received was not to use these different levels. I agree, that however there is a dependency between the levels, but still they are jus different feature groups. On blueprint like process you mean to convert the text to rst, add it to a repo and do Gerrit review? Br, Gerg0 From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 7:47 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi Gerg0,, Hi All, First of all thanks Gerg0 for your work, it is great to see a consolidation of the different discussions. I have a couple of questions (in particular regarding acronyms) and I think it would be great to discuss in details some points such as the different levels (as mentioned recent discussions in the FEMDC SiG led us to consider only 5 levels now, I’m not sure we are going in the right direction but debating on that point can be useful). Could we arrange a dedicated meeting to go through this wiki page? (can be an irc exchange, a webconf….)? How could we progress? Should we go through a blueprint like process? Thanks ad_rien_ BTW, the FEMDC SiG is tomorrow at 15:00 UTC. On 10 Apr 2018, at 16:39, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, I’ve added the requirements and updated the page based ont he coments:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG Some questions: · I’ve added some MVS / Non-MVS classification to the features. Please check and comment them (is there a way to comment this wiki somehow?) · In the „Operability data aggregation data provider part” section I could not figure out what data we would like to aggregate. Can you please help in this? · In the „Remote control controlling part” section I could not figure out what operation we would like to issue. Can you please help in this? · I described the synchronisation of the keystone data as it is done by a new service and not by a partitioned keystone. Should I update the descriptions according to what is described in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems , line 94? Any comments to any other things on the wiki are welcome. Thanks, Gerg0 From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:33 AM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi See my comments in line. On 29 Mar 2018, at 19:25, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, Thanks for the comments. Going inline with the reactions. From: Waines, Greg [mailto:Greg.Waines at windriver.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 12:01 PM Some initial comments: * Features and requirements * Initially talks about “... feature/requirement discussions on two levels ...” * top->down feature oriented discussion and * bottom->up missing requirements of existing mechanisms discussion, * However I only see notes on the ‘top->down feature oriented discussion. [G0]: Yes, the requirements are still to be added. FYI, we had a couple of exchange between folks working in the FEMDC SiG. For the moment, we reduced the number of levels to 5. Level 1: operations (admins/devops) that include on single site (local/remote) Level 2: operations (admins/devops) that include several sites (collaborations between sites) + For Level 2, there are several use-cases, such as bootiing a VM on site A considering a VMI from site B, booting two VMs on distinct sites and interconnecting them, make a provisioning request on site A but site B should satisfy the request because there is no available resources on site A, … + Please consider that all operations that can be satisfied by contacting a site directly without requiring modifications or extensions within the codebase are then considered as Level 1 operations. Level 3: Level 2 operations but operations should consider intermittent networks (such as split brain situations) Level 4: Level 3 operations but across several versions of OpenStack (L4.1) and accros distinct software stack (L4.2). L4.2 may include Kubernetes… Level 5: Level 3 but between distinct operators. We are currently writing a small report and should be able to deliver soon. In addition to simplifying the first classification, the goal is to also try to identify what are the top priorities, in particular in Level 2. * Features * Base assumptions for the features * Why do we have the statement that “edge site is composed of at least 5 servers” ? * Edge sites should be scalable from a single all-in-one server to at least 10s of servers (maybe more) [G0]: This statement is from line 5 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-gap-analysis I tend to agree with you on the lower number, like an edge site can be a single machine. This is one thing what I’ve learned from Beth yesterday. I correct it to one. If there are objections from other we can discuss 😊 Would it be preferable to clarify what do we mean by one server. - we can consider one server as a compute/storage node (i.e. the control services are deployed higher in the hierarchy) - we can consider one server that host an all-in-one OpenStack but we should probably then discussed what are the mandatory mechanisms we would like to have in this all-in-one server. Maybe we can organize a short telco (or irc-meeting) to go through the current wiki page. My two cents, Adrien * Feature Levels * Maybe just me ... but I am not familiar with the use of the term ‘requirement levels’ for increasing complexity of requirements * I think this also caused some confusion at the Dublin PTG meetings * I would suggest * A prioritized list of requirements, * Where the top N requirements on that list would represent the definition of the MANDATORY / Minimum-Viable-Solution(MVS) set of requirements. [G0]: Okay I will reorganize the list based on this. I will look for your comments once I’m ready. * General comments on Level 1 thru Level 7 * Generally I think there is too much focus on the “operational” requirements * E.g. creating VMs, creating network, migrating VMs, etc. * I think the high-priority/MVS requirements should be more focused on the “administrative” requirements * E.g. managing various admin type configurations across all the edge clouds, like users, projects, images, flavors, security groups, quotas, etc. * I think this administrative work alone, would be a good significant first step. [G0]: I think both of them are important and we should focus on both of them. Features are describing the high level target while the requirements will describe the concrete issues (like managing of the admin config). I agree however, that solving the synchronization of administrative data would be an impressive achiecement. Br, Gerg0 Greg. From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > Date: Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 9:05 AM To: Jonathan Bryce >, "edge-computing at lists.openstack.org" > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi, As I promised I started to put the conclusions of the Dublin discussions into t wiki page:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG I'm far from being ready, but in case of any comments please do not hesitate to adit the pages or indicate your comment to me. The main aim of this excercise is to collect the results of our discussions in a space what is less volatile and a bit more organized than an increasing number of etherpads. Br, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Bryce [mailto:jonathan at openstack.org] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:20 PM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi everyone, As a reminder we have a call schedule for tomorrow at 0700PDT/0900CDT/1400UTC. I would like to get into a discussion on how to begin implementing a POC for the new sync service project we started discussing in Dublin. I tried to consolidate the notes that had happened in various places starting on line 91 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems If you are interested in helping to kick off development of this project, please join us tomorrow morning: Meeting Link:https://zoom.us/j/777719876 Thanks, Jonathan On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Christopher Price > wrote: lol, I like it. If we go with that name I'm using "rex" as an abbreviation. ;) From: Waines, Greg > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 11:50:06 AM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); lebre.adrien at free.fr; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Yeah was some interesting discussions. I thought we made the most progress on Tuesday Morning where we worked thru “Alan’s Problems”, and were able to put down some clear requirements and even some stakes in the ground wrt the beginnings of a strawman architecture. My notes and view of those initial requirements and initial strawman architecture that we discussed are below: ( ... feel free to throw harpoons at my interpretation ...) First I’d like to suggest that we do the initial work on this New King Bird with the “goal” of NOT changing ANY existing service (like keystone, or glance, or ...). I think it would allow us to move forward more quickly ... and is not that restrictive wrt being able to meet the requirements below. • multi-region solution • i.e. central region and many edge regions • where region == geographically edge site • For larger solutions, this would extend to multiple levels, e.g. central region à edge region à further-out-edge regions (sites) ... • scaling up to 1,000s of regions/sites eventually • edge region/site can be any size, from small 1-node system to 100s-of-nodes system • a new service runs on central region for configuring/synchronizing/queryingSyncStatusOf system-wide data across all edge regions • referred to in meeting as the "New King Bird" (NKB), • supports REST API for configuring/queryingSyncStatusOf of system wide data across all regions • where system-wide data includes: • users, tenants, VM images (glance) … as discussed in meeting • … and, we never discussed but I would also throw in • nova flavors (& extra specs), nova key pairs, neutron security groups, and • nova and neutron quotas (although that is more complex than simple synchronization if you want quota management across the system/multiple-edge-regions) • will be able to specify sync-policy of 'to ALL edge regions' or 'to specific subset of edge regions', for each item of system-wide data, • synchronization process will retry continuously on failure, • synchronization process will automatically synch data with any newly created/joined edge region, • user will be able to query sync state of system-wide data on all/individual edge regions, • ABC Service in the central region will hold the system-wide ABC data to be synchronized • e.g. keystone, glance, nova, neutron, … • New King Bird Service will hold the meta data wrt sync-policy and sync-state for system-wide data • For a large multi-level region hierarchy, the New King Bird service would also run on selected edge clouds that would then sync data to further-out-edge regions/sites. And finally, I have to throw out the first new name suggestion for the ‘new king bird’ project, how about Tyrannus ( i.e. a genus of large insect-eating birds, commonly known as kingbirds)? let me know what you think, Greg. From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 1:58 PM To: "lebre.adrien at free.fr" >, "edge-computing at lists.openstack.org" > Subject: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi, Thanks Adrian for facilitating the workshop. It was a very interesting and diverse discussion 😉 I can help in organizing the notes after the PTG workshop. We used 3 etherpads: - PTG schedule: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-ptg-dublin - Gap analyzis: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-gap-analysis - Alans problems: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems In the PTG schedule and the Gap analyzis we have high level discussions mostly about what we would like to do while in Alans problems we have detailed notes about some parts of how we would like to solve some of the problems. I think both of these are valuable information and we should somehow have the following things: - a description about what we would like to achieve. Maybe in some other format than a list of etherpads. - a list of concrete requirements to specific projects (being existing or something new) - maybe some prototypes based on the Tuesday afternoon discussions for the keystone data and image distribution (by the way can someone post the picture of THE PLAN?) Any opinions? 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URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Wed Apr 11 12:23:51 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:23:51 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ Thanks, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Cc: Erno Kuvaja Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very helpful: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. cheers, brian On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price wrote: > Hi Gergely, > > > I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. > > > If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and > leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config to > determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. > > Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a > nascent > project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be > heading in the right direction of creating consistency. > > > In short, I don't know... > > > It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we > will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe > the needs and target behaviors by then. > > > / Chris > > ________________________________ > From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM > To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin > Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation > > > Hi, > > > > There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image > synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. > > > > I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features for > the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . > > > > Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? > > > > Thanks, > > Gerg0 > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > _______________________________________________ Edge-computing mailing list Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing From lebre.adrien at free.fr Wed Apr 11 12:35:08 2018 From: lebre.adrien at free.fr (free) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:35:08 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions In-Reply-To: References: <4293232A-9493-4E3E-8BCC-9510AA36546D@openstack.org> <8D264FD7-AF30-4557-9ED7-9FC29614F744@windriver.com> Message-ID: <40DDDB34-1ECB-47A3-B2E7-55B03DCAEC54@free.fr> > On 11 Apr 2018, at 11:31, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: > > Hi, > > I’m open to discuss any comment sor questions in mail or over #edge-computing-group. We can even set up an hour meeting for this on #edge-computing-group. > Yes, should we propose a few slots and see which is the best one? > #levels: One of the comments I received was not to use these different levels. I agree, that however there is a dependency between the levels, but still they are jus different feature groups. > > On blueprint like process you mean to convert the text to rst, add it to a repo and do Gerrit review? > yes ad_ri3n_ > Br, > Gerg0 > >   <> > From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr ] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 7:47 PM > To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > > Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions > > Hi Gerg0,, Hi All, > > First of all thanks Gerg0 for your work, it is great to see a consolidation of the different discussions. > > I have a couple of questions (in particular regarding acronyms) and I think it would be great to discuss in details some points such as the different levels (as mentioned recent discussions in the FEMDC SiG led us to consider only 5 levels now, I’m not sure we are going in the right direction but debating on that point can be useful). > > Could we arrange a dedicated meeting to go through this wiki page? (can be an irc exchange, a webconf….)? > How could we progress? Should we go through a blueprint like process? > > Thanks > ad_rien_ > BTW, the FEMDC SiG is tomorrow at 15:00 UTC. > > On 10 Apr 2018, at 16:39, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: > > Hi, > > I’ve added the requirements and updated the page based ont he coments:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG > > Some questions: > · I’ve added some MVS / Non-MVS classification to the features. Please check and comment them (is there a way to comment this wiki somehow?) > · In the „Operability data aggregation data provider part” section I could not figure out what data we would like to aggregate. Can you please help in this? > · In the „Remote control controlling part” section I could not figure out what operation we would like to issue. Can you please help in this? > · I described the synchronisation of the keystone data as it is done by a new service and not by a partitioned keystone. Should I update the descriptions according to what is described in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems , line 94? > > Any comments to any other things on the wiki are welcome. > > Thanks, > Gerg0 > > From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr ] > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:33 AM > To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions > > Hi > > See my comments in line. > > On 29 Mar 2018, at 19:25, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks for the comments. Going inline with the reactions. > > > From: Waines, Greg [mailto:Greg.Waines at windriver.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 12:01 PM > > Some initial comments: > > Features and requirements > Initially talks about “... feature/requirement discussions on two levels ...” > top->down feature oriented discussion and > bottom->up missing requirements of existing mechanisms discussion, > However I only see notes on the ‘top->down feature oriented discussion. > [G0]: Yes, the requirements are still to be added. > > FYI, we had a couple of exchange between folks working in the FEMDC SiG. For the moment, we reduced the number of levels to 5. > Level 1: operations (admins/devops) that include on single site (local/remote) > Level 2: operations (admins/devops) that include several sites (collaborations between sites) > + For Level 2, there are several use-cases, such as bootiing a VM on site A considering a VMI from site B, booting two VMs on distinct sites and interconnecting them, make a provisioning request on site A but site B should satisfy the request because there is no available resources on site A, … > + Please consider that all operations that can be satisfied by contacting a site directly without requiring modifications or extensions within the codebase are then considered as Level 1 operations. > Level 3: Level 2 operations but operations should consider intermittent networks (such as split brain situations) > Level 4: Level 3 operations but across several versions of OpenStack (L4.1) and accros distinct software stack (L4.2). L4.2 may include Kubernetes… > Level 5: Level 3 but between distinct operators. > > We are currently writing a small report and should be able to deliver soon. > In addition to simplifying the first classification, the goal is to also try to identify what are the top priorities, in particular in Level 2. > > > > > Features > Base assumptions for the features > Why do we have the statement that “edge site is composed of at least 5 servers” ? > Edge sites should be scalable from a single all-in-one server to at least 10s of servers (maybe more) > [G0]: This statement is from line 5 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-gap-analysis I tend to agree with you on the lower number, like an edge site can be a single machine. This is one thing what I’ve learned from Beth yesterday. > I correct it to one. If there are objections from other we can discuss 😊 > > > > Would it be preferable to clarify what do we mean by one server. > - we can consider one server as a compute/storage node (i.e. the control services are deployed higher in the hierarchy) > - we can consider one server that host an all-in-one OpenStack but we should probably then discussed what are the mandatory mechanisms we would like to have in this all-in-one server. > > > Maybe we can organize a short telco (or irc-meeting) to go through the current wiki page. > > My two cents, > Adrien > > Feature Levels > Maybe just me ... but I am not familiar with the use of the term ‘requirement levels’ for increasing complexity of requirements > I think this also caused some confusion at the Dublin PTG meetings > I would suggest > A prioritized list of requirements, > Where the top N requirements on that list would represent the definition of the MANDATORY / Minimum-Viable-Solution(MVS) set of requirements. > [G0]: Okay I will reorganize the list based on this. I will look for your comments once I’m ready. > > General comments on Level 1 thru Level 7 > Generally I think there is too much focus on the “operational” requirements > E.g. creating VMs, creating network, migrating VMs, etc. > I think the high-priority/MVS requirements should be more focused on the “administrative” requirements > E.g. managing various admin type configurations across all the edge clouds, > like users, projects, images, flavors, security groups, quotas, etc. > I think this administrative work alone, would be a good significant first step. > > [G0]: I think both of them are important and we should focus on both of them. > Features are describing the high level target while the requirements will describe the concrete issues (like managing of the admin config). I agree however, that solving the synchronization of administrative data would be an impressive achiecement. > > Br, > Gerg0 > > Greg. > > > From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > > Date: Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 9:05 AM > To: Jonathan Bryce >, "edge-computing at lists.openstack.org " > > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions > > Hi, > > As I promised I started to put the conclusions of the Dublin discussions into t wiki page:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG > I'm far from being ready, but in case of any comments please do not hesitate to adit the pages or indicate your comment to me. > > The main aim of this excercise is to collect the results of our discussions in a space what is less volatile and a bit more organized than an increasing number of etherpads. > > Br, > Gerg0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Bryce [mailto:jonathan at openstack.org ] > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:20 PM > To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions > > Hi everyone, > > As a reminder we have a call schedule for tomorrow at 0700PDT/0900CDT/1400UTC. I would like to get into a discussion on how to begin implementing a POC for the new sync service project we started discussing in Dublin. > > I tried to consolidate the notes that had happened in various places starting on line 91 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems > > If you are interested in helping to kick off development of this project, please join us tomorrow morning: Meeting Link:https://zoom.us/j/777719876 > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > > > On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Christopher Price > wrote: > lol, I like it. If we go with that name I'm using "rex" as an > abbreviation. ;) > From: Waines, Greg > > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 11:50:06 AM > To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); lebre.adrien at free.fr ; > edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions > > Yeah was some interesting discussions. > > I thought we made the most progress on Tuesday Morning where we worked > thru “Alan’s Problems”, and were able to put down some clear requirements and even some stakes in the ground wrt the beginnings of a strawman architecture. > > My notes and view of those initial requirements and initial strawman architecture that we discussed are below: > ( ... feel free to throw harpoons at my interpretation ...) > > First I’d like to suggest that we do the initial work on this New King Bird with the “goal” of NOT changing ANY existing service (like keystone, or glance, or ...). I think it would allow us to move forward more quickly ... and is not that restrictive wrt being able to meet the requirements below. > > • multi-region solution > • i.e. central region and many edge regions > • where region == geographically edge site > • For larger solutions, this would extend to multiple levels, > e.g. central region à edge region à further-out-edge regions (sites) ... > • scaling up to 1,000s of regions/sites eventually > • edge region/site can be any size, from small 1-node system to 100s-of-nodes system > • a new service runs on central region for > configuring/synchronizing/queryingSyncStatusOf system-wide data across all edge regions > • referred to in meeting as the "New King Bird" (NKB), > • supports REST API for configuring/queryingSyncStatusOf of system wide data across all regions > • where system-wide data includes: > • users, tenants, VM images (glance) … as discussed in meeting > • … and, we never discussed but I would also throw in > • nova flavors (& extra specs), nova key pairs, neutron security groups, and > • nova and neutron quotas (although that is more complex than > simple synchronization if you want quota management across the system/multiple-edge-regions) > • will be able to specify sync-policy of 'to ALL edge regions' or > 'to specific subset of edge regions', for each item of system-wide data, > • synchronization process will retry continuously on failure, > • synchronization process will automatically synch data with any newly created/joined edge region, > • user will be able to query sync state of system-wide data on all/individual edge regions, > • ABC Service in the central region will hold the system-wide ABC data to be synchronized > • e.g. keystone, glance, nova, neutron, … > • New King Bird Service will hold the meta data wrt sync-policy and sync-state for system-wide data > • For a large multi-level region hierarchy, the New King Bird service > would also run on selected edge clouds that would then sync data to further-out-edge regions/sites. > > And finally, I have to throw out the first new name suggestion for the > ‘new king bird’ project, how about Tyrannus ( i.e. a genus of large insect-eating birds, commonly known as kingbirds)? > > let me know what you think, > Greg. > > > > From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > > > Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 1:58 PM > To: "lebre.adrien at free.fr " >, > "edge-computing at lists.openstack.org " > > > Subject: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions > > Hi, > > Thanks Adrian for facilitating the workshop. It was a very interesting > and diverse discussion 😉 > > I can help in organizing the notes after the PTG workshop. > > We used 3 etherpads: > - PTG schedule: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-ptg-dublin > - Gap analyzis: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-gap-analysis > - Alans problems: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems > > In the PTG schedule and the Gap analyzis we have high level discussions mostly about what we would like to do while in Alans problems we have detailed notes about some parts of how we would like to solve some of the problems. > > I think both of these are valuable information and we should somehow have the following things: > - a description about what we would like to achieve. Maybe in some other format than a list of etherpads. > - a list of concrete requirements to specific projects (being existing or something new) > - maybe some prototypes based on the Tuesday afternoon discussions for the keystone data and image distribution (by the way can someone post the picture of THE PLAN?) > > Any opinions? > > Br, > Gerg0 > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com Wed Apr 11 13:39:43 2018 From: ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com (Ildiko Vancsa) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:39:43 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare. As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance? Thanks, Ildikó > On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: > > Hi, > > I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. > > Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? > > [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming > [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ > > Thanks, > Gerg0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM > To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Cc: Erno Kuvaja > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation > > The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very > helpful: > > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming > > Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. > > cheers, > brian > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price wrote: >> Hi Gergely, >> >> >> I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. >> >> >> If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and >> leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config to >> determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. >> >> Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a >> nascent >> project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be >> heading in the right direction of creating consistency. >> >> >> In short, I don't know... >> >> >> It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we >> will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe >> the needs and target behaviors by then. >> >> >> / Chris >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) >> >> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM >> To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin >> Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image >> synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. >> >> >> >> I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features for >> the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . >> >> >> >> Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gerg0 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edge-computing mailing list >> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >> > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Wed Apr 11 14:16:59 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:16:59 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Maybe we can share our two architecture alternatives (1) syncronise Keystone data with the New Kingbird 2) Multi region Keystone) with Keystone people. And ask feedback. Br, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:40 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Cc: Brian Rosmaita ; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; Erno Kuvaja Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare. As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance? Thanks, Ildikó > On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: > > Hi, > > I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. > > Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? > > [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming > [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ > > Thanks, > Gerg0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM > To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Cc: Erno Kuvaja > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation > > The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would > be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the > edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic > to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very > helpful: > > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming > > Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. > > cheers, > brian > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price wrote: >> Hi Gergely, >> >> >> I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. >> >> >> If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and >> leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config >> to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. >> >> Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a >> nascent >> project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be >> heading in the right direction of creating consistency. >> >> >> In short, I don't know... >> >> >> It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we >> will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe >> the needs and target behaviors by then. >> >> >> / Chris >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) >> >> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM >> To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin >> Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image >> synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. >> >> >> >> I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features >> for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . >> >> >> >> Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gerg0 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edge-computing mailing list >> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >> > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing From lebre.adrien at free.fr Wed Apr 11 14:27:53 2018 From: lebre.adrien at free.fr (free) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:27:53 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43FC968E-0053-419B-8BBB-A773DE99115C@free.fr> hmm I thought keystone should be extended with the notion of regions/sites in any case, Did I misunderstand ? Or Is the idea to put regions/sites information only in the ‘’golden'' keystone through meta-data informations? Or are you going to be able to define different rights according to the different regions? Thanks for the clarification, Ad_ri3n_ > On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:16, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: > > Hi, > > Maybe we can share our two architecture alternatives (1) syncronise Keystone data with the New Kingbird 2) Multi region Keystone) with Keystone people. And ask feedback. > > Br, > Gerg0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:40 PM > To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Cc: Brian Rosmaita ; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; Erno Kuvaja > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation > > Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare. > > As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance? > > Thanks, > Ildikó > > >> On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. >> >> Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? >> >> [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming >> [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ >> >> Thanks, >> Gerg0 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM >> To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> Cc: Erno Kuvaja >> Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >> >> The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would >> be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the >> edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic >> to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very >> helpful: >> >> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming >> >> Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. >> >> cheers, >> brian >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price wrote: >>> Hi Gergely, >>> >>> >>> I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. >>> >>> >>> If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and >>> leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config >>> to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. >>> >>> Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a >>> nascent >>> project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be >>> heading in the right direction of creating consistency. >>> >>> >>> In short, I don't know... >>> >>> >>> It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we >>> will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe >>> the needs and target behaviors by then. >>> >>> >>> / Chris >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) >>> >>> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM >>> To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin >>> Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>> Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image >>> synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features >>> for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . >>> >>> >>> >>> Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gerg0 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edge-computing mailing list >>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edge-computing mailing list >> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >> _______________________________________________ >> Edge-computing mailing list >> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing From lebre.adrien at free.fr Wed Apr 11 14:36:30 2018 From: lebre.adrien at free.fr (free) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:36:30 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: <43FC968E-0053-419B-8BBB-A773DE99115C@free.fr> References: <43FC968E-0053-419B-8BBB-A773DE99115C@free.fr> Message-ID: Does it make sense to open an new etherpad where we can discuss the different architecture aspects for keystone, glance, Nova and Neutron? I can add these questions/comments on the wikipage you consolidated but I’m not sure it is the best place for such an exercice (proposals welcome ;-)) > On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:27, free wrote: > > hmm I thought keystone should be extended with the notion of regions/sites in any case, Did I misunderstand ? > > Or Is the idea to put regions/sites information only in the ‘’golden'' keystone through meta-data informations? > > Or are you going to be able to define different rights according to the different regions? s/Or/How Sorry Ad_ri3n_ > > Thanks for the clarification, > Ad_ri3n_ >> On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:16, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Maybe we can share our two architecture alternatives (1) syncronise Keystone data with the New Kingbird 2) Multi region Keystone) with Keystone people. And ask feedback. >> >> Br, >> Gerg0 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:40 PM >> To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) >> Cc: Brian Rosmaita ; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; Erno Kuvaja >> Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >> >> Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare. >> >> As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance? >> >> Thanks, >> Ildikó >> >> >>> On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. >>> >>> Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? >>> >>> [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming >>> [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Gerg0 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM >>> To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>> Cc: Erno Kuvaja >>> Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >>> >>> The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would >>> be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the >>> edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic >>> to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very >>> helpful: >>> >>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming >>> >>> Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. >>> >>> cheers, >>> brian >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price wrote: >>>> Hi Gergely, >>>> >>>> >>>> I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. >>>> >>>> >>>> If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and >>>> leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config >>>> to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. >>>> >>>> Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a >>>> nascent >>>> project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be >>>> heading in the right direction of creating consistency. >>>> >>>> >>>> In short, I don't know... >>>> >>>> >>>> It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we >>>> will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe >>>> the needs and target behaviors by then. >>>> >>>> >>>> / Chris >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) >>>> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM >>>> To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin >>>> Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>> Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image >>>> synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features >>>> for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Gerg0 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Edge-computing mailing list >>>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edge-computing mailing list >>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edge-computing mailing list >>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edge-computing mailing list >> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing From lebre.adrien at free.fr Wed Apr 11 14:45:27 2018 From: lebre.adrien at free.fr (free) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:45:27 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] [FEMDC ]Kubernetes IoT Edge Working Group Proposal Message-ID: <1D2DDA2B-B46D-42DD-A398-670FF90D4A73@free.fr> Dear all, I’m not sure the information has been shared on the MLs. https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!topic/kubernetes-dev/sAFIvDsvUCI Regards, Ad_ri3n_ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ildiko at openstack.org Wed Apr 11 14:56:28 2018 From: ildiko at openstack.org (Ildiko Vancsa) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:56:28 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: References: <43FC968E-0053-419B-8BBB-A773DE99115C@free.fr> Message-ID: <381DF2E6-5E77-47B1-A5CA-AC2E81D94B17@openstack.org> Hi Adrien, I think a new etherpad is a good idea as it is easier to edit it in parallel. We can link it to both the wiki page and the weekly calls etherpad so it is easy to find. My only note at this point is that while we are brainstorming on architectural questions regarding multiple services we should still keep focus on the items where we already started to have progress unless we can find people who drive each. Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó > On 2018. Apr 11., at 16:36, free wrote: > > Does it make sense to open an new etherpad where we can discuss the different architecture aspects for keystone, glance, Nova and Neutron? > I can add these questions/comments on the wikipage you consolidated but I’m not sure it is the best place for such an exercice (proposals welcome ;-)) > >> On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:27, free wrote: >> >> hmm I thought keystone should be extended with the notion of regions/sites in any case, Did I misunderstand ? >> >> Or Is the idea to put regions/sites information only in the ‘’golden'' keystone through meta-data informations? >> >> Or are you going to be able to define different rights according to the different regions? > > s/Or/How > Sorry > > Ad_ri3n_ >> >> Thanks for the clarification, >> Ad_ri3n_ >>> On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:16, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Maybe we can share our two architecture alternatives (1) syncronise Keystone data with the New Kingbird 2) Multi region Keystone) with Keystone people. And ask feedback. >>> >>> Br, >>> Gerg0 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:40 PM >>> To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) >>> Cc: Brian Rosmaita ; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; Erno Kuvaja >>> Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >>> >>> Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare. >>> >>> As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ildikó >>> >>> >>>> On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. >>>> >>>> Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? >>>> >>>> [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming >>>> [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Gerg0 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM >>>> To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>> Cc: Erno Kuvaja >>>> Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >>>> >>>> The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would >>>> be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the >>>> edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic >>>> to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very >>>> helpful: >>>> >>>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming >>>> >>>> Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> brian >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price wrote: >>>>> Hi Gergely, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and >>>>> leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config >>>>> to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. >>>>> >>>>> Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a >>>>> nascent >>>>> project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be >>>>> heading in the right direction of creating consistency. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In short, I don't know... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we >>>>> will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe >>>>> the needs and target behaviors by then. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> / Chris >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM >>>>> To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin >>>>> Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>>> Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image >>>>> synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features >>>>> for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Gerg0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Edge-computing mailing list >>>>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Edge-computing mailing list >>>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Edge-computing mailing list >>>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edge-computing mailing list >>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edge-computing mailing list >> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing From lebre.adrien at free.fr Wed Apr 11 15:54:47 2018 From: lebre.adrien at free.fr (free) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:54:47 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: <381DF2E6-5E77-47B1-A5CA-AC2E81D94B17@openstack.org> References: <43FC968E-0053-419B-8BBB-A773DE99115C@free.fr> <381DF2E6-5E77-47B1-A5CA-AC2E81D94B17@openstack.org> Message-ID: Hi Ildiko > On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:56, Ildiko Vancsa wrote: > > Hi Adrien, > > I think a new etherpad is a good idea as it is easier to edit it in parallel. We can link it to both the wiki page and the weekly calls etherpad so it is easy to find. > > My only note at this point is that while we are brainstorming on architectural questions regarding multiple services we should still keep focus on the items where we already started to have progress unless +1 It might be safer BTW to add ongoing-actions/discussions somewhere? > we can find people who drive each. > @all, Please do not forget to add points you would like to discuss at the forum and more generally at the Vancouver summit at : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FEMDC_Vancouver_brainstorming Ad_ri3n_ > Thanks and Best Regards, > Ildikó > > >> On 2018. Apr 11., at 16:36, free wrote: >> >> Does it make sense to open an new etherpad where we can discuss the different architecture aspects for keystone, glance, Nova and Neutron? >> I can add these questions/comments on the wikipage you consolidated but I’m not sure it is the best place for such an exercice (proposals welcome ;-)) >> >>> On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:27, free wrote: >>> >>> hmm I thought keystone should be extended with the notion of regions/sites in any case, Did I misunderstand ? >>> >>> Or Is the idea to put regions/sites information only in the ‘’golden'' keystone through meta-data informations? >>> >>> Or are you going to be able to define different rights according to the different regions? >> >> s/Or/How >> Sorry >> >> Ad_ri3n_ >>> >>> Thanks for the clarification, >>> Ad_ri3n_ >>>> On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:16, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Maybe we can share our two architecture alternatives (1) syncronise Keystone data with the New Kingbird 2) Multi region Keystone) with Keystone people. And ask feedback. >>>> >>>> Br, >>>> Gerg0 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:40 PM >>>> To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) >>>> Cc: Brian Rosmaita ; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; Erno Kuvaja >>>> Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >>>> >>>> Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare. >>>> >>>> As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ildikó >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. >>>>> >>>>> Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? >>>>> >>>>> [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming >>>>> [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Gerg0 >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM >>>>> To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>>> Cc: Erno Kuvaja >>>>> Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >>>>> >>>>> The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would >>>>> be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the >>>>> edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic >>>>> to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very >>>>> helpful: >>>>> >>>>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming >>>>> >>>>> Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> brian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price wrote: >>>>>> Hi Gergely, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and >>>>>> leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config >>>>>> to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. >>>>>> >>>>>> Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a >>>>>> nascent >>>>>> project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be >>>>>> heading in the right direction of creating consistency. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In short, I don't know... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we >>>>>> will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe >>>>>> the needs and target behaviors by then. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> / Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM >>>>>> To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin >>>>>> Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>>>> Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image >>>>>> synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features >>>>>> for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Gerg0 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Edge-computing mailing list >>>>>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Edge-computing mailing list >>>>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Edge-computing mailing list >>>>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Edge-computing mailing list >>>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edge-computing mailing list >>> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edge-computing mailing list >> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Thu Apr 12 10:49:45 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:49:45 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: References: <43FC968E-0053-419B-8BBB-A773DE99115C@free.fr> <381DF2E6-5E77-47B1-A5CA-AC2E81D94B17@openstack.org> Message-ID: Hi, Going inline. From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:55 PM Hi Ildiko On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:56, Ildiko Vancsa > wrote: Hi Adrien, I think a new etherpad is a good idea as it is easier to edit it in parallel. We can link it to both the wiki page and the weekly calls etherpad so it is easy to find. [G0]: For anrchitectural analyzis I would prefer the wiki. It is „more stable” than etherpad and also can handle images. My only note at this point is that while we are brainstorming on architectural questions regarding multiple services we should still keep focus on the items where we already started to have progress unless +1 It might be safer BTW to add ongoing-actions/discussions somewhere? we can find people who drive each. [G0]: For this an entherpad (either a new or an existing would be nice). Or we can start playing with Storyboard. @all, Please do not forget to add points you would like to discuss at the forum and more generally at the Vancouver summit at : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FEMDC_Vancouver_brainstorming [G0]: I’ve created a Keystone proposal, created an etherpad for it an added them to this etherpad. On 2018. Apr 11., at 16:36, free > wrote: Does it make sense to open an new etherpad where we can discuss the different architecture aspects for keystone, glance, Nova and Neutron? I can add these questions/comments on the wikipage you consolidated but I’m not sure it is the best place for such an exercice (proposals welcome ;-)) [G0]: If the questions are related to the content of the wikipage. I would preter to have them in the wikipage with a Q: prefix. On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:27, free > wrote: hmm I thought keystone should be extended with the notion of regions/sites in any case, Did I misunderstand ? [G0]: I’m not sure. It depends on if we would like to push different data to the different regions or sites. My understanding so far was, that we would like to see the same Keystone data synchronised to all sites of the edge cloud infrastructure. Or Is the idea to put regions/sites information only in the ‘’golden'' keystone through meta-data informations? Or are you going to be able to define different rights according to the different regions? [G0]: I was also thinking that all the rights are syncronised into every edge cloud sites in the same way. s/Or/How Sorry Br, Gerg0 Ad_ri3n_ Thanks for the clarification, Ad_ri3n_ On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:16, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, Maybe we can share our two architecture alternatives (1) syncronise Keystone data with the New Kingbird 2) Multi region Keystone) with Keystone people. And ask feedback. Br, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:40 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Cc: Brian Rosmaita >; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; Erno Kuvaja > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare. As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance? Thanks, Ildikó On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ Thanks, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Cc: Erno Kuvaja > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very helpful: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. cheers, brian On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price > wrote: Hi Gergely, I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a nascent project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be heading in the right direction of creating consistency. In short, I don't know... It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe the needs and target behaviors by then. / Chris ________________________________ From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Hi, There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? 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URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Thu Apr 12 13:15:40 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 13:15:40 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: References: <43FC968E-0053-419B-8BBB-A773DE99115C@free.fr> <381DF2E6-5E77-47B1-A5CA-AC2E81D94B17@openstack.org> Message-ID: Hi, And here I send the Doodle for the time of the commenting session of the Dublin notes wiki (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG): https://doodle.com/poll/azac9a3bxchawy83 Br, Gerg0 From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:50 PM To: free ; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Hi, Going inline. From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:55 PM Hi Ildiko On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:56, Ildiko Vancsa > wrote: Hi Adrien, I think a new etherpad is a good idea as it is easier to edit it in parallel. We can link it to both the wiki page and the weekly calls etherpad so it is easy to find. [G0]: For anrchitectural analyzis I would prefer the wiki. It is „more stable” than etherpad and also can handle images. My only note at this point is that while we are brainstorming on architectural questions regarding multiple services we should still keep focus on the items where we already started to have progress unless +1 It might be safer BTW to add ongoing-actions/discussions somewhere? we can find people who drive each. [G0]: For this an entherpad (either a new or an existing would be nice). Or we can start playing with Storyboard. @all, Please do not forget to add points you would like to discuss at the forum and more generally at the Vancouver summit at : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FEMDC_Vancouver_brainstorming [G0]: I’ve created a Keystone proposal, created an etherpad for it an added them to this etherpad. On 2018. Apr 11., at 16:36, free > wrote: Does it make sense to open an new etherpad where we can discuss the different architecture aspects for keystone, glance, Nova and Neutron? I can add these questions/comments on the wikipage you consolidated but I’m not sure it is the best place for such an exercice (proposals welcome ;-)) [G0]: If the questions are related to the content of the wikipage. I would preter to have them in the wikipage with a Q: prefix. On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:27, free > wrote: hmm I thought keystone should be extended with the notion of regions/sites in any case, Did I misunderstand ? [G0]: I’m not sure. It depends on if we would like to push different data to the different regions or sites. My understanding so far was, that we would like to see the same Keystone data synchronised to all sites of the edge cloud infrastructure. Or Is the idea to put regions/sites information only in the ‘’golden'' keystone through meta-data informations? Or are you going to be able to define different rights according to the different regions? [G0]: I was also thinking that all the rights are syncronised into every edge cloud sites in the same way. s/Or/How Sorry Br, Gerg0 Ad_ri3n_ Thanks for the clarification, Ad_ri3n_ On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:16, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, Maybe we can share our two architecture alternatives (1) syncronise Keystone data with the New Kingbird 2) Multi region Keystone) with Keystone people. And ask feedback. Br, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:40 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Cc: Brian Rosmaita >; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; Erno Kuvaja > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare. As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance? Thanks, Ildikó On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ Thanks, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Cc: Erno Kuvaja > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very helpful: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. cheers, brian On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price > wrote: Hi Gergely, I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a nascent project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be heading in the right direction of creating consistency. In short, I don't know... It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe the needs and target behaviors by then. / Chris ________________________________ From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Hi, There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? 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URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Thu Apr 12 13:38:38 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 13:38:38 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions In-Reply-To: <40DDDB34-1ECB-47A3-B2E7-55B03DCAEC54@free.fr> References: <4293232A-9493-4E3E-8BCC-9510AA36546D@openstack.org> <8D264FD7-AF30-4557-9ED7-9FC29614F744@windriver.com> <40DDDB34-1ECB-47A3-B2E7-55B03DCAEC54@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi, Uh-oh, sharing the Doodle link in the correct thread also: https://doodle.com/poll/azac9a3bxchawy83 On the blueprint like process: I think it is a good idea as the wiki we use is not able to handle inline comments, but for this we would need a repository first 😊 Br, Gerg0 From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 2:35 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions On 11 Apr 2018, at 11:31, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, I’m open to discuss any comment sor questions in mail or over #edge-computing-group. We can even set up an hour meeting for this on #edge-computing-group. Yes, should we propose a few slots and see which is the best one? #levels: One of the comments I received was not to use these different levels. I agree, that however there is a dependency between the levels, but still they are jus different feature groups. On blueprint like process you mean to convert the text to rst, add it to a repo and do Gerrit review? yes ad_ri3n_ Br, Gerg0 From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 7:47 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi Gerg0,, Hi All, First of all thanks Gerg0 for your work, it is great to see a consolidation of the different discussions. I have a couple of questions (in particular regarding acronyms) and I think it would be great to discuss in details some points such as the different levels (as mentioned recent discussions in the FEMDC SiG led us to consider only 5 levels now, I’m not sure we are going in the right direction but debating on that point can be useful). Could we arrange a dedicated meeting to go through this wiki page? (can be an irc exchange, a webconf….)? How could we progress? Should we go through a blueprint like process? Thanks ad_rien_ BTW, the FEMDC SiG is tomorrow at 15:00 UTC. On 10 Apr 2018, at 16:39, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, I’ve added the requirements and updated the page based ont he coments:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG Some questions: • I’ve added some MVS / Non-MVS classification to the features. Please check and comment them (is there a way to comment this wiki somehow?) • In the „Operability data aggregation data provider part” section I could not figure out what data we would like to aggregate. Can you please help in this? • In the „Remote control controlling part” section I could not figure out what operation we would like to issue. Can you please help in this? • I described the synchronisation of the keystone data as it is done by a new service and not by a partitioned keystone. Should I update the descriptions according to what is described in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems , line 94? Any comments to any other things on the wiki are welcome. Thanks, Gerg0 From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:33 AM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi See my comments in line. On 29 Mar 2018, at 19:25, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, Thanks for the comments. Going inline with the reactions. From: Waines, Greg [mailto:Greg.Waines at windriver.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 12:01 PM Some initial comments: * Features and requirements * Initially talks about “... feature/requirement discussions on two levels ...” * top->down feature oriented discussion and * bottom->up missing requirements of existing mechanisms discussion, * However I only see notes on the ‘top->down feature oriented discussion. [G0]: Yes, the requirements are still to be added. FYI, we had a couple of exchange between folks working in the FEMDC SiG. For the moment, we reduced the number of levels to 5. Level 1: operations (admins/devops) that include on single site (local/remote) Level 2: operations (admins/devops) that include several sites (collaborations between sites) + For Level 2, there are several use-cases, such as bootiing a VM on site A considering a VMI from site B, booting two VMs on distinct sites and interconnecting them, make a provisioning request on site A but site B should satisfy the request because there is no available resources on site A, … + Please consider that all operations that can be satisfied by contacting a site directly without requiring modifications or extensions within the codebase are then considered as Level 1 operations. Level 3: Level 2 operations but operations should consider intermittent networks (such as split brain situations) Level 4: Level 3 operations but across several versions of OpenStack (L4.1) and accros distinct software stack (L4.2). L4.2 may include Kubernetes… Level 5: Level 3 but between distinct operators. We are currently writing a small report and should be able to deliver soon. In addition to simplifying the first classification, the goal is to also try to identify what are the top priorities, in particular in Level 2. * Features * Base assumptions for the features * Why do we have the statement that “edge site is composed of at least 5 servers” ? * Edge sites should be scalable from a single all-in-one server to at least 10s of servers (maybe more) [G0]: This statement is from line 5 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-gap-analysis I tend to agree with you on the lower number, like an edge site can be a single machine. This is one thing what I’ve learned from Beth yesterday. I correct it to one. If there are objections from other we can discuss 😊 Would it be preferable to clarify what do we mean by one server. - we can consider one server as a compute/storage node (i.e. the control services are deployed higher in the hierarchy) - we can consider one server that host an all-in-one OpenStack but we should probably then discussed what are the mandatory mechanisms we would like to have in this all-in-one server. Maybe we can organize a short telco (or irc-meeting) to go through the current wiki page. My two cents, Adrien * Feature Levels * Maybe just me ... but I am not familiar with the use of the term ‘requirement levels’ for increasing complexity of requirements * I think this also caused some confusion at the Dublin PTG meetings * I would suggest * A prioritized list of requirements, * Where the top N requirements on that list would represent the definition of the MANDATORY / Minimum-Viable-Solution(MVS) set of requirements. [G0]: Okay I will reorganize the list based on this. I will look for your comments once I’m ready. * General comments on Level 1 thru Level 7 * Generally I think there is too much focus on the “operational” requirements * E.g. creating VMs, creating network, migrating VMs, etc. * I think the high-priority/MVS requirements should be more focused on the “administrative” requirements * E.g. managing various admin type configurations across all the edge clouds, like users, projects, images, flavors, security groups, quotas, etc. * I think this administrative work alone, would be a good significant first step. [G0]: I think both of them are important and we should focus on both of them. Features are describing the high level target while the requirements will describe the concrete issues (like managing of the admin config). I agree however, that solving the synchronization of administrative data would be an impressive achiecement. Br, Gerg0 Greg. From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > Date: Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 9:05 AM To: Jonathan Bryce >, "edge-computing at lists.openstack.org" > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi, As I promised I started to put the conclusions of the Dublin discussions into t wiki page:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG I'm far from being ready, but in case of any comments please do not hesitate to adit the pages or indicate your comment to me. The main aim of this excercise is to collect the results of our discussions in a space what is less volatile and a bit more organized than an increasing number of etherpads. Br, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Bryce [mailto:jonathan at openstack.org] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:20 PM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi everyone, As a reminder we have a call schedule for tomorrow at 0700PDT/0900CDT/1400UTC. I would like to get into a discussion on how to begin implementing a POC for the new sync service project we started discussing in Dublin. I tried to consolidate the notes that had happened in various places starting on line 91 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems If you are interested in helping to kick off development of this project, please join us tomorrow morning: Meeting Link:https://zoom.us/j/777719876 Thanks, Jonathan On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Christopher Price > wrote: lol, I like it. If we go with that name I'm using "rex" as an abbreviation. ;) From: Waines, Greg > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 11:50:06 AM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); lebre.adrien at free.fr; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Yeah was some interesting discussions. I thought we made the most progress on Tuesday Morning where we worked thru “Alan’s Problems”, and were able to put down some clear requirements and even some stakes in the ground wrt the beginnings of a strawman architecture. My notes and view of those initial requirements and initial strawman architecture that we discussed are below: ( ... feel free to throw harpoons at my interpretation ...) First I’d like to suggest that we do the initial work on this New King Bird with the “goal” of NOT changing ANY existing service (like keystone, or glance, or ...). I think it would allow us to move forward more quickly ... and is not that restrictive wrt being able to meet the requirements below. • multi-region solution • i.e. central region and many edge regions • where region == geographically edge site • For larger solutions, this would extend to multiple levels, e.g. central region à edge region à further-out-edge regions (sites) ... • scaling up to 1,000s of regions/sites eventually • edge region/site can be any size, from small 1-node system to 100s-of-nodes system • a new service runs on central region for configuring/synchronizing/queryingSyncStatusOf system-wide data across all edge regions • referred to in meeting as the "New King Bird" (NKB), • supports REST API for configuring/queryingSyncStatusOf of system wide data across all regions • where system-wide data includes: • users, tenants, VM images (glance) … as discussed in meeting • … and, we never discussed but I would also throw in • nova flavors (& extra specs), nova key pairs, neutron security groups, and • nova and neutron quotas (although that is more complex than simple synchronization if you want quota management across the system/multiple-edge-regions) • will be able to specify sync-policy of 'to ALL edge regions' or 'to specific subset of edge regions', for each item of system-wide data, • synchronization process will retry continuously on failure, • synchronization process will automatically synch data with any newly created/joined edge region, • user will be able to query sync state of system-wide data on all/individual edge regions, • ABC Service in the central region will hold the system-wide ABC data to be synchronized • e.g. keystone, glance, nova, neutron, … • New King Bird Service will hold the meta data wrt sync-policy and sync-state for system-wide data • For a large multi-level region hierarchy, the New King Bird service would also run on selected edge clouds that would then sync data to further-out-edge regions/sites. And finally, I have to throw out the first new name suggestion for the ‘new king bird’ project, how about Tyrannus ( i.e. a genus of large insect-eating birds, commonly known as kingbirds)? let me know what you think, Greg. From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 1:58 PM To: "lebre.adrien at free.fr" >, "edge-computing at lists.openstack.org" > Subject: [Edge-computing] Afterlife of the PTG edge discussions Hi, Thanks Adrian for facilitating the workshop. It was a very interesting and diverse discussion 😉 I can help in organizing the notes after the PTG workshop. We used 3 etherpads: - PTG schedule: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-ptg-dublin - Gap analyzis: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-gap-analysis - Alans problems: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems In the PTG schedule and the Gap analyzis we have high level discussions mostly about what we would like to do while in Alans problems we have detailed notes about some parts of how we would like to solve some of the problems. I think both of these are valuable information and we should somehow have the following things: - a description about what we would like to achieve. Maybe in some other format than a list of etherpads. - a list of concrete requirements to specific projects (being existing or something new) - maybe some prototypes based on the Tuesday afternoon discussions for the keystone data and image distribution (by the way can someone post the picture of THE PLAN?) Any opinions? 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URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Fri Apr 13 06:49:55 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:49:55 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: References: <43FC968E-0053-419B-8BBB-A773DE99115C@free.fr> <381DF2E6-5E77-47B1-A5CA-AC2E81D94B17@openstack.org> Message-ID: Hi, I took the liberty and proposed the forum topic: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/112 and created an etherpad to brainstorm: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-edge-glance-brainstorming Br, Gerg0 From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 3:16 PM To: 'free' ; 'edge-computing at lists.openstack.org' Subject: RE: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Hi, And here I send the Doodle for the time of the commenting session of the Dublin notes wiki (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG): https://doodle.com/poll/azac9a3bxchawy83 Br, Gerg0 From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:50 PM To: free >; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Hi, Going inline. From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:55 PM Hi Ildiko On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:56, Ildiko Vancsa > wrote: Hi Adrien, I think a new etherpad is a good idea as it is easier to edit it in parallel. We can link it to both the wiki page and the weekly calls etherpad so it is easy to find. [G0]: For anrchitectural analyzis I would prefer the wiki. It is „more stable” than etherpad and also can handle images. My only note at this point is that while we are brainstorming on architectural questions regarding multiple services we should still keep focus on the items where we already started to have progress unless +1 It might be safer BTW to add ongoing-actions/discussions somewhere? we can find people who drive each. [G0]: For this an entherpad (either a new or an existing would be nice). Or we can start playing with Storyboard. @all, Please do not forget to add points you would like to discuss at the forum and more generally at the Vancouver summit at : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FEMDC_Vancouver_brainstorming [G0]: I’ve created a Keystone proposal, created an etherpad for it an added them to this etherpad. On 2018. Apr 11., at 16:36, free > wrote: Does it make sense to open an new etherpad where we can discuss the different architecture aspects for keystone, glance, Nova and Neutron? I can add these questions/comments on the wikipage you consolidated but I’m not sure it is the best place for such an exercice (proposals welcome ;-)) [G0]: If the questions are related to the content of the wikipage. I would preter to have them in the wikipage with a Q: prefix. On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:27, free > wrote: hmm I thought keystone should be extended with the notion of regions/sites in any case, Did I misunderstand ? [G0]: I’m not sure. It depends on if we would like to push different data to the different regions or sites. My understanding so far was, that we would like to see the same Keystone data synchronised to all sites of the edge cloud infrastructure. Or Is the idea to put regions/sites information only in the ‘’golden'' keystone through meta-data informations? Or are you going to be able to define different rights according to the different regions? [G0]: I was also thinking that all the rights are syncronised into every edge cloud sites in the same way. s/Or/How Sorry Br, Gerg0 Ad_ri3n_ Thanks for the clarification, Ad_ri3n_ On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:16, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, Maybe we can share our two architecture alternatives (1) syncronise Keystone data with the New Kingbird 2) Multi region Keystone) with Keystone people. And ask feedback. Br, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:40 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Cc: Brian Rosmaita >; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; Erno Kuvaja > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare. As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance? Thanks, Ildikó On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ Thanks, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Cc: Erno Kuvaja > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very helpful: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. cheers, brian On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price > wrote: Hi Gergely, I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a nascent project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be heading in the right direction of creating consistency. In short, I don't know... It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe the needs and target behaviors by then. / Chris ________________________________ From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Hi, There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? 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URL: From lebre.adrien at free.fr Fri Apr 13 14:12:32 2018 From: lebre.adrien at free.fr (free) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:12:32 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation In-Reply-To: References: <43FC968E-0053-419B-8BBB-A773DE99115C@free.fr> <381DF2E6-5E77-47B1-A5CA-AC2E81D94B17@openstack.org> Message-ID: <8F26482E-C85F-4123-91D0-DF92711C1B4B@free.fr> Filled from my side ;-) thanks Gerg0 anyone else interested to take part to this discussion? Ad_ri3n_ > On 12 Apr 2018, at 15:15, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: > > Hi, > > And here I send the Doodle for the time of the commenting session of the Dublin notes wiki (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG ): https://doodle.com/poll/azac9a3bxchawy83 > > Br, > Gerg0 > >   <> > From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:50 PM > To: free ; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: RE: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation > > Hi, > > Going inline. > > From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr ] > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:55 PM > > Hi Ildiko > > On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:56, Ildiko Vancsa > wrote: > > Hi Adrien, > > I think a new etherpad is a good idea as it is easier to edit it in parallel. We can link it to both the wiki page and the weekly calls etherpad so it is easy to find. > > [G0]: For anrchitectural analyzis I would prefer the wiki. It is „more stable” than etherpad and also can handle images. > > My only note at this point is that while we are brainstorming on architectural questions regarding multiple services we should still keep focus on the items where we already started to have progress unless > > +1 > It might be safer BTW to add ongoing-actions/discussions somewhere? > > we can find people who drive each. > > [G0]: For this an entherpad (either a new or an existing would be nice). Or we can start playing with Storyboard. > > @all, Please do not forget to add points you would like to discuss at the forum and more generally at the Vancouver summit at : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FEMDC_Vancouver_brainstorming > > [G0]: I’ve created a Keystone proposal, created an etherpad for it an added them to this etherpad. > > On 2018. Apr 11., at 16:36, free > wrote: > > Does it make sense to open an new etherpad where we can discuss the different architecture aspects for keystone, glance, Nova and Neutron? > I can add these questions/comments on the wikipage you consolidated but I’m not sure it is the best place for such an exercice (proposals welcome ;-)) > [G0]: If the questions are related to the content of the wikipage. I would preter to have them in the wikipage with a Q: prefix. > > On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:27, free > wrote: > > hmm I thought keystone should be extended with the notion of regions/sites in any case, Did I misunderstand ? > > [G0]: I’m not sure. It depends on if we would like to push different data to the different regions or sites. My understanding so far was, that we would like to see the same Keystone data synchronised to all sites of the edge cloud infrastructure. > > Or Is the idea to put regions/sites information only in the ‘’golden'' keystone through meta-data informations? > > Or are you going to be able to define different rights according to the different regions? > [G0]: I was also thinking that all the rights are syncronised into every edge cloud sites in the same way. > > s/Or/How > Sorry > > Br, > Gerg0 > > Ad_ri3n_ > > > Thanks for the clarification, > Ad_ri3n_ > > On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:16, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: > > Hi, > > Maybe we can share our two architecture alternatives (1) syncronise Keystone data with the New Kingbird 2) Multi region Keystone) with Keystone people. And ask feedback. > > Br, > Gerg0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:40 PM > To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > > Cc: Brian Rosmaita >; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org ; Erno Kuvaja > > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation > > Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare. > > As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance? > > Thanks, > Ildikó > > > > On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: > > Hi, > > I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. > > Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? > > [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming > [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ > > Thanks, > Gerg0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM > To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Cc: Erno Kuvaja > > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation > > The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would > be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the > edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic > to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very > helpful: > > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming > > Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. > > cheers, > brian > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price > wrote: > > Hi Gergely, > > > I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. > > > If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and > leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config > to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. > > Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a > nascent > project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be > heading in the right direction of creating consistency. > > > In short, I don't know... > > > It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we > will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe > the needs and target behaviors by then. > > > / Chris > > ________________________________ > From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > > > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM > To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin > Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation > > > Hi, > > > > There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image > synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. > > > > I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features > for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . > > > > Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? > > > > Thanks, > > Gerg0 > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ad_ri3n_ On 12 Apr 2018, at 15:15, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, And here I send the Doodle for the time of the commenting session of the Dublin notes wiki (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG): https://doodle.com/poll/azac9a3bxchawy83 Br, Gerg0 From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:50 PM To: free >; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Hi, Going inline. From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:55 PM Hi Ildiko On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:56, Ildiko Vancsa > wrote: Hi Adrien, I think a new etherpad is a good idea as it is easier to edit it in parallel. We can link it to both the wiki page and the weekly calls etherpad so it is easy to find. [G0]: For anrchitectural analyzis I would prefer the wiki. It is „more stable” than etherpad and also can handle images. My only note at this point is that while we are brainstorming on architectural questions regarding multiple services we should still keep focus on the items where we already started to have progress unless +1 It might be safer BTW to add ongoing-actions/discussions somewhere? we can find people who drive each. [G0]: For this an entherpad (either a new or an existing would be nice). Or we can start playing with Storyboard. @all, Please do not forget to add points you would like to discuss at the forum and more generally at the Vancouver summit at : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FEMDC_Vancouver_brainstorming [G0]: I’ve created a Keystone proposal, created an etherpad for it an added them to this etherpad. On 2018. Apr 11., at 16:36, free > wrote: Does it make sense to open an new etherpad where we can discuss the different architecture aspects for keystone, glance, Nova and Neutron? I can add these questions/comments on the wikipage you consolidated but I’m not sure it is the best place for such an exercice (proposals welcome ;-)) [G0]: If the questions are related to the content of the wikipage. I would preter to have them in the wikipage with a Q: prefix. On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:27, free > wrote: hmm I thought keystone should be extended with the notion of regions/sites in any case, Did I misunderstand ? [G0]: I’m not sure. It depends on if we would like to push different data to the different regions or sites. My understanding so far was, that we would like to see the same Keystone data synchronised to all sites of the edge cloud infrastructure. Or Is the idea to put regions/sites information only in the ‘’golden'' keystone through meta-data informations? Or are you going to be able to define different rights according to the different regions? [G0]: I was also thinking that all the rights are syncronised into every edge cloud sites in the same way. s/Or/How Sorry Br, Gerg0 Ad_ri3n_ Thanks for the clarification, Ad_ri3n_ On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:16, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, Maybe we can share our two architecture alternatives (1) syncronise Keystone data with the New Kingbird 2) Multi region Keystone) with Keystone people. And ask feedback. Br, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:40 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Cc: Brian Rosmaita >; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; Erno Kuvaja > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare. As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance? Thanks, Ildikó On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > wrote: Hi, I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal? [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ Thanks, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Cc: Erno Kuvaja > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum. It would be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the edge-computing community. If someone on this list could add a topic to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very helpful: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started. cheers, brian On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price > wrote: Hi Gergely, I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization. If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images. Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a nascent project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be heading in the right direction of creating consistency. In short, I don't know... It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe the needs and target behaviors by then. / Chris ________________________________ From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation Hi, There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group. I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . . Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare? 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We know that Tricircle enables DevOps to deal with some network aspects? is it sufficient? do we need specific mechanisms for edge use-case? My two cents, ad_ri3n_ On 13 Apr 2018, at 08:49, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: > > Hi, > > I took the liberty and proposed the forum topic: > http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/112 > and created an etherpad to brainstorm: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-edge-glance-brainstorming > > Br, > Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ildiko at openstack.org Fri Apr 13 19:10:57 2018 From: ildiko at openstack.org (Ildiko Vancsa) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 21:10:57 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Forum Topic - After Keystone and Glance, what's about Nova? Neutron? In-Reply-To: <1A404DA6-0F8C-4C03-BD31-5134492A3DED@free.fr> References: <1A404DA6-0F8C-4C03-BD31-5134492A3DED@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Adrien, Looking back at the recent discussions on the Edge Computing Group calls, having Forum sessions with Glance and Keystone and discussing further region-awareness and the synchronization service is what seems manageable to me to keep our focus. I think it is important to go into deeper details in areas where we have a somewhat clear view on what we need and start moving forward with the design phase. We can broaden the scope to other projects as a next step or if we have drivers for those items/projects. On the other hand, if I remember correctly the FEMDC SIG has been looking into Nova features and identified gaps so I wonder whether we should spend some to sync up to see the relation between the above mentioned items and the SIG’s findings to look for connection points, overlapping, or conflicts? Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó (IRC: ildikov) > On 2018. Apr 13., at 16:35, free wrote: > > Hi, > > I’m just wondering whether we should have similar discussions for Nova and Neutron (ie. something similar to the forum topic proposal Gerg0 posted for Keystone and Glance)? > > What are the expected features from Nova viewpoint? What does it mean at the nova level? Does it require to implement additional mechanisms? > CMU/OEC folks have been investigating a few mechanisms related to WAN live migration and booting process challenges. > Although they are nice features, they seem to target advanced scenarios/use-cases (at least based on the PTG discussions). > Is there any other capability edge DevOps would like to see at the Noval level? > > What’s about Neutron? We know that Tricircle enables DevOps to deal with some network aspects? is it sufficient? do we need specific mechanisms for edge use-case? > > My two cents, > ad_ri3n_ > On 13 Apr 2018, at 08:49, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I took the liberty and proposed the forum topic: >> http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/112 >> and created an etherpad to brainstorm: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-edge-glance-brainstorming >> >> Br, >> Gerg0 > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing From fuqiao at chinamobile.com Wed Apr 18 12:13:21 2018 From: fuqiao at chinamobile.com (Fu Qiao) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:13:21 +0800 Subject: [Edge-computing] edge cloud project call -- projec proposal discussion Message-ID: <000201d3d70e$a58c36a0$f0a4a3e0$@chinamobile.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Want to talk to you all soon. https://zoom.us/j/5014627785 发件人: Fu Qiao [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月11日 09:22 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' ; 'Georg Kunz' ; 'jean.gaoliang' ; 'Wenjing Chu' ; 'Chigang (Justin)' ; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' ; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' ; 'Tina Tsou' ; 'Bob Monkman' ; 'Tina Tsou' ; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' ; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' ; 'Waines, Greg' ; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' ; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' ; 'Ryota Mibu' ; 'Hellmann, Gil' ; 'Cooper, Trevor' ; 'adrian.peret at nokia.com' ; 'Tim Rozet' ; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' ; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' ; 'Rossella Sblendido' ; 'Cooper, Trevor' ; 'Zhang, Xiaohua' 抄送: '王路' ; '赵奇慧' ; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' ; 'Yamei' 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. This edge cloud project is planned to be reviewed on Hubin’s tech discussion meeting next Thursday. Therefore I suggest we have our first project call next Wednesday to go through the project proposal internally. I suggest we use the UTC 13:00-14:00 slot for Wednesday, Apr. 18th. Please reply to this mailing list if you have trouble with this time. And in the meantime, feel free to add your name under the contributor list if you are willing to join this project. Thank you! 发件人: Fu Qiao [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月2日 12:36 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' >; 'Georg Kunz' >; 'jean.gaoliang' >; 'Wenjing Chu' >; 'Chigang (Justin)' >; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' >; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' >; 'Tina Tsou' >; 'Bob Monkman' >; 'Tina Tsou' >; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' >; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' >; 'Waines, Greg' >; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' >; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' >; 'Ryota Mibu' >; 'Hellmann, Gil' >; 'Cooper, Trevor' >; 'Tim Rozet' >; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' >; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' >; 'Rossella Sblendido' >; 'fbrockne at cisco.com' > 抄送: '王路' >; '赵 奇慧' >; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' > 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. Based on the discussion during last week’s f2f meeting, I have uploaded a project proposal for edge cloud in the wiki. Please provide your comments and suggestions. Your contribution for this project will be very welcome. https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Edge+cloud 发件人: opnfv-tech-discuss-bounces at lists.opnfv.org [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-bounces at lists.opnfv.org] 代表 Fu Qiao 发送时间: 2018年3月23日 11:16 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' >; 'Georg Kunz' >; 'jean.gaoliang' >; 'Wenjing Chu' >; 'Chigang (Justin)' >; zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn ; cristina.pauna at enea.com ; 'Tina Tsou' >; 'Bob Monkman' >; morgan.richomme at orange. com ; Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com ; 'Waines, Greg' >; jamil.chawki at orange.com ; morgan.richomme at orange.com ; 'Ryota Mibu' >; 'Cooper, Trevor' >; 'Tim Rozet' >; tapio.tallgren at nokia.com ; bryan.sullivan at att.com ; 'Rossella Sblendido' >; fbrockne at cisco.com 抄送: '王路' >; '赵 奇慧' >; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' > 主题: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. We plan to organize an edge cloud related discussion during next week’s ONS. You are welcome to join us in interested. Location: K-town Time: 11:30-12:30, Tue. Mar. 27 Agenda: 1, Usecase for edge 2, Edge cloud strategy for Operators 3, Progress of upstreams on edge cloud 4, Open Questions for edge 5, Project proposal for edge cloud in OPNFV Attached is the slides we should like to share during the meeting. I have also create etherpad page for the discussion. Please also add your name if you are intended to participate. Looking forward to seeing you all next week. https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/edge_cloud_discussion_in_ONS2018 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fuqiao at chinamobile.com Thu Apr 19 03:43:40 2018 From: fuqiao at chinamobile.com (Fu Qiao) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:43:40 +0800 Subject: [Edge-computing] =?gb2312?b?tPC4tDogW29wbmZ2LXRlY2gtZGlzY3Vzc10g?= =?gb2312?b?RWRnZSBjbG91ZCBkaXNjdXNzaW9uIGR1cmluZyBPTlM=?= References: <00b301d3c255$5204eea0$f60ecbe0$@chinamobile.com> Message-ID: <007f01d3d790$9c4cfcf0$d4e6f6d0$@chinamobile.com> Hi, all. I create a survey monkey to collect alternative meeting slot for the project call. As we discussed yesterday during the call, we will use the UTC 13:00-14:00 on Wednesday, but will choose another slot which is APAC friendly for an alternative call every other week. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/WT7B5TK below are the survey link. Please input your choose before next Tuesday UTC 12:00. And if you are unconformable with any alternative slot, please only choose the first option. Thank you so much. 发件人: Fu Qiao [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月18日 20:59 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' ; 'Georg Kunz' ; 'jean.gaoliang' ; 'Wenjing Chu' ; 'Chigang (Justin)' ; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' ; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' ; 'Tina Tsou' ; 'Bob Monkman' ; 'Tina Tsou' ; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' ; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' ; 'Waines, Greg' ; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' ; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' ; 'Ryota Mibu' ; 'Hellmann, Gil' ; 'Cooper, Trevor' ; 'adrian.peret at nokia.com' ; 'Tim Rozet' ; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' ; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' ; 'Rossella Sblendido' ; 'Cooper, Trevor' ; 'Zhang, Xiaohua' 抄送: '王路' ; '赵奇慧' ; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' ; 'Yamei' 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS And we will use this page to keep meeting minutes. meeting agenda and minutes are kept in the following etherpad page https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/edge_cloud_meeting_minutes 发件人: Fu Qiao [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月11日 09:22 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' >; 'Georg Kunz' >; 'jean.gaoliang' >; 'Wenjing Chu' >; 'Chigang (Justin)' >; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' >; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' >; 'Tina Tsou' >; 'Bob Monkman' >; 'Tina Tsou' >; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' >; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' >; 'Waines, Greg' >; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' >; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' >; 'Ryota Mibu' >; 'Hellmann, Gil' >; 'Cooper, Trevor' >; 'adrian.peret at nokia.com' >; 'Tim Rozet' >; 'tapio. tallgren at nokia.com' >; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' >; 'Rossella Sblendido' >; 'Cooper, Trevor' >; 'Zhang, Xiaohua' > 抄送: '王路' >; '赵 奇慧' >; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' >; 'Yamei' > 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. This edge cloud project is planned to be reviewed on Hubin’s tech discussion meeting next Thursday. Therefore I suggest we have our first project call next Wednesday to go through the project proposal internally. I suggest we use the UTC 13:00-14:00 slot for Wednesday, Apr. 18th. Please reply to this mailing list if you have trouble with this time. And in the meantime, feel free to add your name under the contributor list if you are willing to join this project. Thank you! 发件人: Fu Qiao [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月2日 12:36 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' >; 'Georg Kunz' >; 'jean.gaoliang' >; 'Wenjing Chu' >; 'Chigang (Justin)' >; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' >; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' >; 'Tina Tsou' >; 'Bob Monkman' >; 'Tina Tsou' >; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' >; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' >; 'Waines, Greg' >; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' >; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' >; 'Ryota Mibu' >; 'Hellmann, Gil' >; 'Cooper, Trevor' >; 'Tim Rozet' >; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' >; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' >; 'Rossella Sblendido' >; 'fbrockne at cisco.com' 抄送: '王路' >; '赵 奇慧' >; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' > 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. Based on the discussion during last week’s f2f meeting, I have uploaded a project proposal for edge cloud in the wiki. Please provide your comments and suggestions. Your contribution for this project will be very welcome. https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Edge+cloud 发件人: opnfv-tech-discuss-bounces at lists.opnfv.org [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-bounces at lists.opnfv.org] 代表 Fu Qiao 发送时间: 2018年3月23日 11:16 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' >; 'Georg Kunz' >; 'jean.gaoliang' >; 'Wenjing Chu' >; 'Chigang (Justin)' >; zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn ; cristina.pauna at enea.com ; 'Tina Tsou' >; 'Bob Monkman' >; morgan.richomme at orange. com ; Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com ; 'Waines, Greg' >; jamil.chawki at orange.com ; morgan.richomme at orange.com ; 'Ryota Mibu' >; 'Cooper, Trevor' >; 'Tim Rozet' >; tapio.tallgren at nokia.com ; bryan.sullivan at att.com ; 'Rossella Sblendido' >; fbrockne at cisco.com 抄送: '王路' >; '赵 奇慧' >; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' > 主题: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. We plan to organize an edge cloud related discussion during next week’s ONS. You are welcome to join us in interested. Location: K-town Time: 11:30-12:30, Tue. Mar. 27 Agenda: 1, Usecase for edge 2, Edge cloud strategy for Operators 3, Progress of upstreams on edge cloud 4, Open Questions for edge 5, Project proposal for edge cloud in OPNFV Attached is the slides we should like to share during the meeting. I have also create etherpad page for the discussion. Please also add your name if you are intended to participate. Looking forward to seeing you all next week. https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/edge_cloud_discussion_in_ONS2018 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Fri Apr 20 13:00:51 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 13:00:51 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Review of Dublin edge notes Message-ID: Hi, This is a friendly reminder, that the IRC meeting to review the Dublin edge notes is sarting now on #edge-computing-group . Br, Gerg0 -----Original Appointment----- From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 4:23 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; free; Paul-Andre Raymond Cc: Éric Sarault; beth.cohen at verizon.com; CARVER, PAUL; Martin Bäckström; Kit Colbert; Silverman, Ben; Srikumar Venugopal; jonathan at openstack.org; Waines, Greg; Shashi Kant Singh; Mathieu LAGRANGE; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE); stephan.terblanche at verizonwireless.com; Mats Karlsson A; DRUTA, DAN Subject: Review of Dublin edge notes When: péntek 2018. április 20 15:00-16:00 (UTC+01:00) Belgrade, Bratislava, Budapest, Ljubljana, Prague. Where: #edge-computing-group Hi, Let's have an IRC meeting to discuss the comments to the Dublin edge notes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG Br, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[Verizon] Beth Cohen NFV/SDN Network Product Strategy O +781-466-2055 | M +781-434-8553 beth.cohen at verizon.com [Twitter] [Instagram] From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) [mailto:gergely.csatari at nokia.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 9:01 AM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; free ; Paul-Andre Raymond Cc: Éric Sarault ; Cohen, Beth F ; CARVER, PAUL ; Martin Bäckström ; Kit Colbert ; Silverman, Ben ; Srikumar Venugopal ; jonathan at openstack.org; Waines, Greg ; Shashi Kant Singh ; Mathieu Lagrange ; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE) ; Terblanche, Stephan ; Mats Karlsson A ; DRUTA, DAN Subject: [E] RE: Review of Dublin edge notes Hi, This is a friendly reminder, that the IRC meeting to review the Dublin edge notes is sarting now on #edge-computing-group . Br, Gerg0 -----Original Appointment----- From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 4:23 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; free; Paul-Andre Raymond Cc: Éric Sarault; beth.cohen at verizon.com; CARVER, PAUL; Martin Bäckström; Kit Colbert; Silverman, Ben; Srikumar Venugopal; jonathan at openstack.org; Waines, Greg; Shashi Kant Singh; Mathieu LAGRANGE; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE); stephan.terblanche at verizonwireless.com; Mats Karlsson A; DRUTA, DAN Subject: Review of Dublin edge notes When: péntek 2018. április 20 15:00-16:00 (UTC+01:00) Belgrade, Bratislava, Budapest, Ljubljana, Prague. Where: #edge-computing-group Hi, Let's have an IRC meeting to discuss the comments to the Dublin edge notes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG Br, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Fri Apr 20 15:32:20 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 15:32:20 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Review of Dublin edge notes In-Reply-To: <7518bdbeec4a43fca27af41debc79508@OMZP1LUMXCA08.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> References: <7518bdbeec4a43fca27af41debc79508@OMZP1LUMXCA08.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> Message-ID: Hi, Here I send the minutes of the meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes/2018/review_of_dublin_edge_notes.2018-04-20-12.58.html I've collected the Action items to line 49 of: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Dublin-edge-notes-wiki We should continue the discussion. Please put your votes until 10 CET on Monday (23.04.2018) to here: https://doodle.com/poll/tk7ix5wewp45hg9t Br, Gerg0 From: beth.cohen at verizon.com [mailto:beth.cohen at verizon.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 3:05 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) ; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; free ; Paul-Andre Raymond Cc: Éric Sarault ; CARVER, PAUL ; Martin Bäckström ; Kit Colbert ; Silverman, Ben ; Srikumar Venugopal ; jonathan at openstack.org; Waines, Greg ; Shashi Kant Singh ; Mathieu Lagrange ; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE) ; Terblanche, Stephan ; Mats Karlsson A ; DRUTA, DAN Subject: RE: Review of Dublin edge notes Sadly I cannot do IRC chats from my office computers. [Verizon] Beth Cohen NFV/SDN Network Product Strategy O +781-466-2055 | M +781-434-8553 beth.cohen at verizon.com [Twitter] [Instagram] From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) [mailto:gergely.csatari at nokia.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 9:01 AM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; free >; Paul-Andre Raymond > Cc: Éric Sarault >; Cohen, Beth F >; CARVER, PAUL >; Martin Bäckström >; Kit Colbert >; Silverman, Ben >; Srikumar Venugopal >; jonathan at openstack.org; Waines, Greg >; Shashi Kant Singh >; Mathieu Lagrange >; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE) >; Terblanche, Stephan >; Mats Karlsson A >; DRUTA, DAN > Subject: [E] RE: Review of Dublin edge notes Hi, This is a friendly reminder, that the IRC meeting to review the Dublin edge notes is sarting now on #edge-computing-group . Br, Gerg0 -----Original Appointment----- From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 4:23 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; free; Paul-Andre Raymond Cc: Éric Sarault; beth.cohen at verizon.com; CARVER, PAUL; Martin Bäckström; Kit Colbert; Silverman, Ben; Srikumar Venugopal; jonathan at openstack.org; Waines, Greg; Shashi Kant Singh; Mathieu LAGRANGE; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE); stephan.terblanche at verizonwireless.com; Mats Karlsson A; DRUTA, DAN Subject: Review of Dublin edge notes When: péntek 2018. április 20 15:00-16:00 (UTC+01:00) Belgrade, Bratislava, Budapest, Ljubljana, Prague. Where: #edge-computing-group Hi, Let's have an IRC meeting to discuss the comments to the Dublin edge notes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG Br, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Br, Gerg0 From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 5:32 PM To: 'beth.cohen at verizon.com' ; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; free ; Paul-Andre Raymond Cc: Éric Sarault ; CARVER, PAUL ; Martin Bäckström ; Kit Colbert ; Silverman, Ben ; Srikumar Venugopal ; jonathan at openstack.org; Waines, Greg ; Shashi Kant Singh ; Mathieu Lagrange ; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE) ; Terblanche, Stephan ; Mats Karlsson A ; DRUTA, DAN Subject: RE: Review of Dublin edge notes Hi, Here I send the minutes of the meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes/2018/review_of_dublin_edge_notes.2018-04-20-12.58.html I've collected the Action items to line 49 of: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Dublin-edge-notes-wiki We should continue the discussion. Please put your votes until 10 CET on Monday (23.04.2018) to here: https://doodle.com/poll/tk7ix5wewp45hg9t Br, Gerg0 From: beth.cohen at verizon.com [mailto:beth.cohen at verizon.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 3:05 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) >; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; free >; Paul-Andre Raymond > Cc: Éric Sarault >; CARVER, PAUL >; Martin Bäckström >; Kit Colbert >; Silverman, Ben >; Srikumar Venugopal >; jonathan at openstack.org; Waines, Greg >; Shashi Kant Singh >; Mathieu Lagrange >; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE) >; Terblanche, Stephan >; Mats Karlsson A >; DRUTA, DAN > Subject: RE: Review of Dublin edge notes Sadly I cannot do IRC chats from my office computers. [Verizon] Beth Cohen NFV/SDN Network Product Strategy O +781-466-2055 | M +781-434-8553 beth.cohen at verizon.com [Twitter] [Instagram] From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) [mailto:gergely.csatari at nokia.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 9:01 AM To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; free >; Paul-Andre Raymond > Cc: Éric Sarault >; Cohen, Beth F >; CARVER, PAUL >; Martin Bäckström >; Kit Colbert >; Silverman, Ben >; Srikumar Venugopal >; jonathan at openstack.org; Waines, Greg >; Shashi Kant Singh >; Mathieu Lagrange >; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE) >; Terblanche, Stephan >; Mats Karlsson A >; DRUTA, DAN > Subject: [E] RE: Review of Dublin edge notes Hi, This is a friendly reminder, that the IRC meeting to review the Dublin edge notes is sarting now on #edge-computing-group . Br, Gerg0 -----Original Appointment----- From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 4:23 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; free; Paul-Andre Raymond Cc: Éric Sarault; beth.cohen at verizon.com; CARVER, PAUL; Martin Bäckström; Kit Colbert; Silverman, Ben; Srikumar Venugopal; jonathan at openstack.org; Waines, Greg; Shashi Kant Singh; Mathieu LAGRANGE; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE); stephan.terblanche at verizonwireless.com; Mats Karlsson A; DRUTA, DAN Subject: Review of Dublin edge notes When: péntek 2018. április 20 15:00-16:00 (UTC+01:00) Belgrade, Bratislava, Budapest, Ljubljana, Prague. Where: #edge-computing-group Hi, Let's have an IRC meeting to discuss the comments to the Dublin edge notes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG Br, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Claire > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > Subject: [Edge-computing] Review of Dublin edge notes II > Date: April 23, 2018 at 3:10:46 AM CDT > > Hi, > > Let’s continue the IRC meeting to discuss the comments to the Dublin edge notes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG > > Notes of the first meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes/2018/review_of_dublin_edge_notes.2018-04-20-12.58.html > > Br, > Gerg0 > > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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OPNFV TSC Meeting When Weekly from 6am to 7am on Tuesday Pacific Time Where https://zoom.us/j/430620244 ( map) 发件人: Fu Qiao [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月19日 11:44 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' ; 'Georg Kunz' ; 'jean.gaoliang' ; 'Wenjing Chu' ; 'Chigang (Justin)' ; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' ; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' ; 'Tina Tsou' ; 'Bob Monkman' ; 'Tina Tsou' ; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' ; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' ; 'Waines, Greg' ; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' ; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' ; 'Ryota Mibu' ; 'Hellmann, Gil' ; 'Cooper, Trevor' ; 'adrian.peret at nokia.com' ; 'Tim Rozet' ; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' ; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' ; 'Rossella Sblendido' ; 'Cooper, Trevor' ; 'Zhang, Xiaohua' 抄送: '王路' ; '赵奇慧' ; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' ; 'Yamei' ; 'TSC OPNFV' ; 'edge-computing at lists.openstack.org' 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. I create a survey monkey to collect alternative meeting slot for the project call. As we discussed yesterday during the call, we will use the UTC 13:00-14:00 on Wednesday, but will choose another slot which is APAC friendly for an alternative call every other week. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/WT7B5TK below are the survey link. Please input your choose before next Tuesday UTC 12:00. And if you are unconformable with any alternative slot, please only choose the first option. Thank you so much. 发件人: Fu Qiao [ mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile. com] 发送时间: 2018年4月18日 20:59 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' < tim.irnich at ericsson. com>; 'Georg Kunz' < georg.kunz at ericsson.com>; 'jean.gaoliang' < jean.gaoliang at huawei.com>; 'Wenjing Chu' < Wenjing.Chu at huawei.com>; 'Chigang (Justin)' < chigang at huawei.com>; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' < zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn>; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' < cristina.pauna at enea.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'Bob Monkman' < Bob.Monkman at arm.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' < Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com>; 'Waines, Greg' < Greg.Waines at windriver.com>; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' < jamil.chawki at orange.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ryota Mibu' < r-mibu at cq.jp.nec.com>; 'Hellmann, Gil' < gil.hellmann at windriver.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'adrian.peret at nokia.com' < adrian.peret at nokia.com>; 'Tim Rozet' < trozet at redhat.com>; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' < tapio.tallgren at nokia.com>; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' < bryan.sullivan at att.com>; 'Rossella Sblendido' < RSblendido at suse.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'Zhang, Xiaohua' < Xiaohua.Zhang at windriver.com> 抄送: '王路' < wanglu at chinamobile.com>; '赵 奇慧' < zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' < opnfv-tech-discuss at lists.opnfv.org>; 'Yamei' < fanyamei at chinamobile.com> 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS And we will use this page to keep meeting minutes. meeting agenda and minutes are kept in the following etherpad page https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/edge_cloud_meeting_minutes 发件人: Fu Qiao [ mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile. com] 发送时间: 2018年4月11日 09:22 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' < tim.irnich at ericsson. com>; 'Georg Kunz' < georg.kunz at ericsson.com>; 'jean.gaoliang' < jean.gaoliang at huawei.com>; 'Wenjing Chu' < Wenjing.Chu at huawei.com>; 'Chigang (Justin)' < chigang at huawei.com>; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' < zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn>; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' < cristina.pauna at enea.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'Bob Monkman' < Bob.Monkman at arm.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' < Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com>; 'Waines, Greg' < Greg.Waines at windriver.com>; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' < jamil.chawki at orange.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ryota Mibu' < r-mibu at cq.jp.nec.com>; 'Hellmann, Gil' < gil.hellmann at windriver.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'adrian.peret at nokia.com' < adrian.peret at nokia.com>; 'Tim Rozet' < trozet at redhat.com>; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' < tapio.tallgren at nokia.com>; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' < bryan.sullivan at att.com>; 'Rossella Sblendido' < RSblendido at suse.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'Zhang, Xiaohua' < Xiaohua.Zhang at windriver.com> 抄送: '王路' < wanglu at chinamobile.com>; '赵 奇慧' < zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' < opnfv-tech-discuss at lists.opnfv.org>; 'Yamei' < fanyamei at chinamobile.com> 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. This edge cloud project is planned to be reviewed on Hubin’s tech discussion meeting next Thursday. Therefore I suggest we have our first project call next Wednesday to go through the project proposal internally. I suggest we use the UTC 13:00-14:00 slot for Wednesday, Apr. 18th. Please reply to this mailing list if you have trouble with this time. And in the meantime, feel free to add your name under the contributor list if you are willing to join this project. Thank you! 发件人: Fu Qiao [ mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile. com] 发送时间: 2018年4月2日 12:36 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' < tim.irnich at ericsson. com>; 'Georg Kunz' < georg.kunz at ericsson.com>; 'jean.gaoliang' < jean.gaoliang at huawei.com>; 'Wenjing Chu' < Wenjing.Chu at huawei.com>; 'Chigang (Justin)' < chigang at huawei.com>; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' < zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn>; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' < cristina.pauna at enea.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'Bob Monkman' < Bob.Monkman at arm.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' < Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com>; 'Waines, Greg' < Greg.Waines at windriver.com>; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' < jamil.chawki at orange.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ryota Mibu' < r-mibu at cq.jp.nec.com>; 'Hellmann, Gil' < gil.hellmann at windriver.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'Tim Rozet' < trozet at redhat.com>; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' < tapio.tallgren at nokia.com>; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' < bryan.sullivan at att.com>; 'Rossella Sblendido' < RSblendido at suse.com>; 'fbrockne at cisco.com' < fbrockne at cisco.com> 抄送: '王路' < wanglu at chinamobile.com>; '赵 奇慧' < zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' < opnfv-tech-discuss at lists.opnfv.org> 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. Based on the discussion during last week’s f2f meeting, I have uploaded a project proposal for edge cloud in the wiki. Please provide your comments and suggestions. Your contribution for this project will be very welcome. https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Edge+cloud 发件人: opnfv-tech-discuss-bounces at lists.opnfv.org [ mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-bounces at lists.opnfv.org] 代表 Fu Qiao 发送时间: 2018年3月23日 11:16 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' < tim.irnich at ericsson. com>; 'Georg Kunz' < georg.kunz at ericsson.com>; 'jean.gaoliang' < jean.gaoliang at huawei.com>; 'Wenjing Chu' < Wenjing.Chu at huawei.com>; 'Chigang (Justin)' < chigang at huawei.com>; zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn; cristina.pauna at enea.com; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'Bob Monkman' < Bob.Monkman at arm.com>; morgan.richomme at orange.com; Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com; 'Waines, Greg' < Greg.Waines at windriver.com>; jamil.chawki at orange.com; morgan.richomme at orange.com; 'Ryota Mibu' < r-mibu at cq.jp.nec.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'Tim Rozet' < trozet at redhat.com>; tapio.tallgren at nokia.com; bryan.sullivan at att.com; 'Rossella Sblendido' < RSblendido at suse.com>; fbrockne at cisco.com 抄送: '王路' < wanglu at chinamobile.com>; '赵 奇慧' < zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' < opnfv-tech-discuss at lists.opnfv.org> 主题: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. We plan to organize an edge cloud related discussion during next week’s ONS. You are welcome to join us in interested. Location: K-town Time: 11:30-12:30, Tue. Mar. 27 Agenda: 1, Usecase for edge 2, Edge cloud strategy for Operators 3, Progress of upstreams on edge cloud 4, Open Questions for edge 5, Project proposal for edge cloud in OPNFV Attached is the slides we should like to share during the meeting. I have also create etherpad page for the discussion. Please also add your name if you are intended to participate. Looking forward to seeing you all next week. https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/edge_cloud_discussion_in_ONS2018 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fuqiao at chinamobile.com Wed Apr 25 06:53:15 2018 From: fuqiao at chinamobile.com (Fu Qiao) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:53:15 +0800 Subject: [Edge-computing] =?gb2312?b?tPC4tDogW29wbmZ2LXRlY2gtZGlzY3Vzc10g?= =?gb2312?b?W2VkZ2UgY2xvdWRdRWRnZSBjbG91ZCBkaXNjdXNzaW9uIGR1cmlu?= =?gb2312?b?ZyBPTlM=?= Message-ID: <006e01d3dc62$16c2fea0$4448fbe0$@chinamobile.com> Hi, all. First the good news is the edge cloud project has pass TSC review and is officially on board on yesterday’s TCS call. The main feedback from TSC is we the current committer and contributor list is too long, and they think it will be difficult for a single project to have about 18 committers. So they are kind of suggesting us to try to shrink the number of committers and making sure we have the ones that really want to contribute to this project with docs and codes to be committers. The TSC requires us to go back to the next TSC call and report our final list of committers. I suggest we use our next meeting to consoled the committer list so that we can get prepared for the next TSC call. For the meeting slot survey, we got quite uniformed distributed result for the survey. Therefore I suggest we choose Thursday UTC 3:00-4:00 as our alternative meeting slots. So, our next meeting will be tomorrow, Apr. 26 UTC 3:00-4:00. I will send out an outlook invitation afterwards. The agenda is suggested as below: 1, Project progress updates 2, meeting arrangement updates 3, committer list 4, Project promotion suggestions I am also adding my thoughts for the topics in the following etherpad. Please also input yours before the meeting so that we can have an efficient discussion. https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/edge_cloud_meeting_minutes 发件人: Fu Qiao [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月24日 16:11 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' ; 'Georg Kunz' ; 'jean.gaoliang' ; 'Wenjing Chu' ; 'Chigang (Justin)' ; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' ; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' ; 'Tina Tsou' ; 'Bob Monkman' ; 'Tina Tsou' ; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' ; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' ; 'Waines, Greg' ; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' ; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' ; 'Ryota Mibu' ; 'Hellmann, Gil' ; 'Cooper, Trevor' ; 'adrian.peret at nokia.com' ; 'Tim Rozet' ; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' ; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' ; 'Rossella Sblendido' ; 'Cooper, Trevor' ; 'Zhang, Xiaohua' 抄送: '王路' ; '赵奇慧' ; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' ; 'Yamei' ; 'TSC OPNFV' ; 'edge-computing at lists.openstack.org' 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. The edge cloud project will be reviewed on Today’s TSC meeting. Below are the logistics. I would like to invite all the committers for this project to join the TSC call today for the discussion. Thank you! more details ? OPNFV TSC Meeting When Weekly from 6am to 7am on Tuesday Pacific Time Where https://zoom.us/j/430620244 ( map) 发件人: Fu Qiao [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] 发送时间: 2018年4月19日 11:44 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' >; 'Georg Kunz' >; 'jean.gaoliang' >; 'Wenjing Chu' >; 'Chigang (Justin)' >; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' >; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' >; 'Tina Tsou' >; 'Bob Monkman' >; 'Tina Tsou' >; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' >; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' >; 'Waines, Greg' >; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' >; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' >; 'Ryota Mibu' >; 'Hellmann, Gil' >; 'Cooper, Trevor' >; 'adrian.peret at nokia.com' >; 'Tim Rozet' >; 'tapio. tallgren at nokia.com' >; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' >; 'Rossella Sblendido' >; 'Cooper, Trevor' >; 'Zhang, Xiaohua' > 抄送: '王路' >; '赵 奇慧' >; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' >; 'Yamei' >; 'TSC OPNFV' >; 'edge-computing at lists.openstack.org' > 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. I create a survey monkey to collect alternative meeting slot for the project call. As we discussed yesterday during the call, we will use the UTC 13:00-14:00 on Wednesday, but will choose another slot which is APAC friendly for an alternative call every other week. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/WT7B5TK below are the survey link. Please input your choose before next Tuesday UTC 12:00. And if you are unconformable with any alternative slot, please only choose the first option. Thank you so much. 发件人: Fu Qiao [ mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile. com] 发送时间: 2018年4月18日 20:59 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' < tim.irnich at ericsson. com>; 'Georg Kunz' < georg.kunz at ericsson.com>; 'jean.gaoliang' < jean.gaoliang at huawei.com>; 'Wenjing Chu' < Wenjing.Chu at huawei.com>; 'Chigang (Justin)' < chigang at huawei.com>; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' < zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn>; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' < cristina.pauna at enea.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'Bob Monkman' < Bob.Monkman at arm.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' < Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com>; 'Waines, Greg' < Greg.Waines at windriver.com>; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' < jamil.chawki at orange.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ryota Mibu' < r-mibu at cq.jp.nec.com>; 'Hellmann, Gil' < gil.hellmann at windriver.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'adrian.peret at nokia.com' < adrian.peret at nokia.com>; 'Tim Rozet' < trozet at redhat.com>; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' < tapio.tallgren at nokia.com>; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' < bryan.sullivan at att.com>; 'Rossella Sblendido' < RSblendido at suse.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'Zhang, Xiaohua' < Xiaohua.Zhang at windriver.com> 抄送: '王路' < wanglu at chinamobile.com>; '赵 奇慧' < zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' < opnfv-tech-discuss at lists.opnfv.org>; 'Yamei' < fanyamei at chinamobile.com> 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS And we will use this page to keep meeting minutes. meeting agenda and minutes are kept in the following etherpad page https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/edge_cloud_meeting_minutes 发件人: Fu Qiao [ mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile. com] 发送时间: 2018年4月11日 09:22 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' < tim.irnich at ericsson. com>; 'Georg Kunz' < georg.kunz at ericsson.com>; 'jean.gaoliang' < jean.gaoliang at huawei.com>; 'Wenjing Chu' < Wenjing.Chu at huawei.com>; 'Chigang (Justin)' < chigang at huawei.com>; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' < zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn>; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' < cristina.pauna at enea.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'Bob Monkman' < Bob.Monkman at arm.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' < Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com>; 'Waines, Greg' < Greg.Waines at windriver.com>; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' < jamil.chawki at orange.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ryota Mibu' < r-mibu at cq.jp.nec.com>; 'Hellmann, Gil' < gil.hellmann at windriver.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'adrian.peret at nokia.com' < adrian.peret at nokia.com>; 'Tim Rozet' < trozet at redhat.com>; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' < tapio.tallgren at nokia.com>; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' < bryan.sullivan at att.com>; 'Rossella Sblendido' < RSblendido at suse.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'Zhang, Xiaohua' < Xiaohua.Zhang at windriver.com> 抄送: '王路' < wanglu at chinamobile.com>; '赵 奇慧' < zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' < opnfv-tech-discuss at lists.opnfv.org>; 'Yamei' < fanyamei at chinamobile.com> 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. This edge cloud project is planned to be reviewed on Hubin’s tech discussion meeting next Thursday. Therefore I suggest we have our first project call next Wednesday to go through the project proposal internally. I suggest we use the UTC 13:00-14:00 slot for Wednesday, Apr. 18th. Please reply to this mailing list if you have trouble with this time. And in the meantime, feel free to add your name under the contributor list if you are willing to join this project. Thank you! 发件人: Fu Qiao [ mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile. com] 发送时间: 2018年4月2日 12:36 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' < tim.irnich at ericsson. com>; 'Georg Kunz' < georg.kunz at ericsson.com>; 'jean.gaoliang' < jean.gaoliang at huawei.com>; 'Wenjing Chu' < Wenjing.Chu at huawei.com>; 'Chigang (Justin)' < chigang at huawei.com>; 'zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn' < zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn>; 'cristina.pauna at enea.com' < cristina.pauna at enea.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'Bob Monkman' < Bob.Monkman at arm.com>; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com' < Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com>; 'Waines, Greg' < Greg.Waines at windriver.com>; 'jamil.chawki at orange.com' < jamil.chawki at orange.com>; 'morgan.richomme at orange.com' < morgan.richomme at orange.com>; 'Ryota Mibu' < r-mibu at cq.jp.nec.com>; 'Hellmann, Gil' < gil.hellmann at windriver.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'Tim Rozet' < trozet at redhat.com>; 'tapio.tallgren at nokia.com' < tapio.tallgren at nokia.com>; 'bryan.sullivan at att.com' < bryan.sullivan at att.com>; 'Rossella Sblendido' < RSblendido at suse.com>; 'fbrockne at cisco.com' < fbrockne at cisco.com> 抄送: '王路' < wanglu at chinamobile.com>; '赵 奇慧' < zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' < opnfv-tech-discuss at lists.opnfv.org> 主题: 答复: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. Based on the discussion during last week’s f2f meeting, I have uploaded a project proposal for edge cloud in the wiki. Please provide your comments and suggestions. Your contribution for this project will be very welcome. https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Edge+cloud 发件人: opnfv-tech-discuss-bounces at lists.opnfv.org [ mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-bounces at lists.opnfv.org] 代表 Fu Qiao 发送时间: 2018年3月23日 11:16 收件人: 'Tim Irnich' < tim.irnich at ericsson. com>; 'Georg Kunz' < georg.kunz at ericsson.com>; 'jean.gaoliang' < jean.gaoliang at huawei.com>; 'Wenjing Chu' < Wenjing.Chu at huawei.com>; 'Chigang (Justin)' < chigang at huawei.com>; zhang.jun3g at zte.com.cn; cristina.pauna at enea.com; 'Tina Tsou' < Tina.Tsou at arm.com>; 'Bob Monkman' < Bob.Monkman at arm.com>; morgan.richomme at orange.com; Ian.Jolliffe at windriver.com; 'Waines, Greg' < Greg.Waines at windriver.com>; jamil.chawki at orange.com; morgan.richomme at orange.com; 'Ryota Mibu' < r-mibu at cq.jp.nec.com>; 'Cooper, Trevor' < trevor.cooper at intel.com>; 'Tim Rozet' < trozet at redhat.com>; tapio.tallgren at nokia.com; bryan.sullivan at att.com; 'Rossella Sblendido' < RSblendido at suse.com>; fbrockne at cisco.com 抄送: '王路' < wanglu at chinamobile.com>; '赵 奇慧' < zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>; 'opnfv-tech-discuss' < opnfv-tech-discuss at lists.opnfv.org> 主题: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Edge cloud discussion during ONS Hi, all. We plan to organize an edge cloud related discussion during next week’s ONS. You are welcome to join us in interested. Location: K-town Time: 11:30-12:30, Tue. Mar. 27 Agenda: 1, Usecase for edge 2, Edge cloud strategy for Operators 3, Progress of upstreams on edge cloud 4, Open Questions for edge 5, Project proposal for edge cloud in OPNFV Attached is the slides we should like to share during the meeting. I have also create etherpad page for the discussion. Please also add your name if you are intended to participate. Looking forward to seeing you all next week. https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/edge_cloud_discussion_in_ONS2018 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Initial committer sign up a) Please remember go to our etherpad page to add your name and the things you want to contribute before May 4th, when we need to report the final list to TSC. b) Initial committer: be able to make output for the following 2 releases, including docs or codes 4. Project promotion plan a) Build separate working teams to work on specific areas. Please also add your name here if you are willing to lead and contribute to this team on following areas: i. Edge Cloud requirement analysis and architecture design ii. Cross community liaison, Progress and gap analysis for upstream communities and OPNFV projects iii. scenario definition and implementation iv. Testing stretagy and test case development Best, Qihui -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Thu Apr 26 06:48:58 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 06:48:58 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Review of Dublin edge notes II Message-ID: Hi, Thanks for the discussion. Here are the minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_ii/2018/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_ii.2018-04-25-14.01.html We will continue from 5.2.2.7 Administration features. You can vote for the time of the next meeting here: https://doodle.com/poll/cmqxgpc76axyrpka Br, Gerg0 -----Original Appointment----- From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:11 AM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); edge-computing at lists.openstack.org; free; Paul-Andre Raymond; Éric Sarault; beth.cohen at verizon.com; CARVER, PAUL; Martin Bäckström; Kit Colbert; Silverman, Ben; Srikumar Venugopal; jonathan at openstack.org; Waines, Greg; Shashi Kant Singh; Mathieu LAGRANGE; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE); stephan.terblanche at verizonwireless.com; Mats Karlsson A; DRUTA, DAN; BUYUKKOC, CAGATAY; Francis Dagenais Cc: Paul Bankert; Shuquan Huang; Trinath Somanchi; Yves Desrochers Subject: Review of Dublin edge notes II When: szerda 2018. április 25 16:00-17:00 (UTC+01:00) Belgrade, Bratislava, Budapest, Ljubljana, Prague. Where: #edge-computing-group Hi, Let's continue the IRC meeting to discuss the comments to the Dublin edge notes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG Notes of the first meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes/2018/review_of_dublin_edge_notes.2018-04-20-12.58.html Br, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: