[Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation

free lebre.adrien at free.fr
Fri Apr 13 14:12:32 UTC 2018


Filled from  my side ;-)
thanks Gerg0

anyone else interested to take part to this discussion? 

Ad_ri3n_

> On 12 Apr 2018, at 15:15, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) <gergely.csatari at nokia.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
>  
> And here I send the Doodle for the time of the commenting session of the Dublin notes wiki (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG>): https://doodle.com/poll/azac9a3bxchawy83 <https://doodle.com/poll/azac9a3bxchawy83>
>  
> Br, 
> Gerg0
>  
>   <>
> From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) 
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:50 PM
> To: free <lebre.adrien at free.fr>; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: RE: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation
>  
> Hi, 
>  
> Going inline.
>  
> From: free [mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr <mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr>] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:55 PM
> 
> Hi Ildiko
>  
> On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:56, Ildiko Vancsa <ildiko at openstack.org <mailto:ildiko at openstack.org>> wrote:
>  
> Hi Adrien,
> 
> I think a new etherpad is a good idea as it is easier to edit it in parallel. We can link it to both the wiki page and the weekly calls etherpad so it is easy to find.
> 
> [G0]: For anrchitectural analyzis I would prefer the wiki. It is „more stable” than etherpad and also can handle images.
> 
> My only note at this point is that while we are brainstorming on architectural questions regarding multiple services we should still keep focus on the items where we already started to have progress unless
>  
> +1 
> It might be safer BTW to add ongoing-actions/discussions somewhere? 
>  
> we can find people who drive each.
> 
> [G0]: For this an entherpad (either a new or an existing would be nice). Or we can start playing with Storyboard.
>  
> @all, Please do not forget to add  points you would like to discuss at the forum and more generally at the Vancouver summit at : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FEMDC_Vancouver_brainstorming <https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FEMDC_Vancouver_brainstorming>
>  
> [G0]: I’ve created a Keystone proposal, created an etherpad for it an added them to this etherpad.
>  
> On 2018. Apr 11., at 16:36, free <lebre.adrien at free.fr <mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr>> wrote:
> 
> Does it make sense to open an new etherpad where we can discuss the different architecture aspects for keystone, glance, Nova and Neutron? 
> I can add these questions/comments on the wikipage you consolidated but I’m not sure it is the best place for such an exercice (proposals welcome ;-))
> [G0]: If the questions are related to the content of the wikipage. I would preter to have them in the wikipage with a Q: prefix.
> 
> On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:27, free <lebre.adrien at free.fr <mailto:lebre.adrien at free.fr>> wrote:
> 
> hmm I thought keystone should be extended with the notion of regions/sites in any case, Did I misunderstand ?
> 
> [G0]: I’m not sure. It depends on if we would like to push different data to the different regions or sites. My understanding so far was, that we would like to see the same Keystone data synchronised to all sites of the edge cloud infrastructure. 
>  
> Or Is the idea to put regions/sites information only in the ‘’golden'' keystone through meta-data informations?
> 
> Or are you going to be able to define different rights according to the different regions?
> [G0]: I was also thinking that all the rights are syncronised into every edge cloud sites in the same way.
> 
> s/Or/How 
> Sorry
> 
> Br, 
> Gerg0
> 
> Ad_ri3n_
> 
> 
> Thanks for the clarification, 
> Ad_ri3n_
> 
> On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:16, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) <gergely.csatari at nokia.com <mailto:gergely.csatari at nokia.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Maybe we can share our two architecture alternatives (1) syncronise Keystone data with the New Kingbird 2) Multi region Keystone) with Keystone people. And ask feedback. 
> 
> Br, 
> Gerg0
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ildiko Vancsa [mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com <mailto:ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com>] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:40 PM
> To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) <gergely.csatari at nokia.com <mailto:gergely.csatari at nokia.com>>
> Cc: Brian Rosmaita <rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com <mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com>>; edge-computing at lists.openstack.org <mailto:edge-computing at lists.openstack.org>; Erno Kuvaja <jokke at usr.fi <mailto:jokke at usr.fi>>
> Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation
> 
> Thanks Gergely for picking this up! We should find the time on the weekly calls to talk a bit about this topic and prepare.
> 
> As the Forum got brought up I wonder whether there are other projects at this stage to sync up with, like Keystone for instance?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ildikó
> 
> 
> 
> On 2018. Apr 11., at 14:23, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) <gergely.csatari at nokia.com <mailto:gergely.csatari at nokia.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've added a proposal to line 56 of [1]. 
> 
> Brian, how it will be decided if a proposal can be submitted to [2] and who should do the proposal?
> 
> [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming <https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming>
> [2]: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ <http://forumtopics.openstack.org/>
> 
> Thanks,
> Gerg0
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com <mailto:rosmaita.fossdev at gmail.com>]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:40 PM
> To: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org <mailto:edge-computing at lists.openstack.org>
> Cc: Erno Kuvaja <jokke at usr.fi <mailto:jokke at usr.fi>>
> Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation
> 
> The Glance project will have some developers at the Forum.  It would 
> be good for us to have some kind of sync-up between Glance and the 
> edge-computing community.  If someone on this list could add a topic 
> to the Glance forum brainstorming etherpad, that would be very
> helpful:
> 
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming <https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming>
> 
> Even if the topic isn't ultimately accepted by the Forum committee, at least it can be the basis to get a productive discussion started.
> 
> cheers,
> brian
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Price <christopher.price at est.tech <mailto:christopher.price at est.tech>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gergely,
> 
> 
> I recall we discussed distributed image sync, not centralization.
> 
> 
> If my recollection is correct the dialog related to using glance and 
> leveraging ("new kingbird - NKB") location specific keystone config 
> to determine the roles and rights associated with the site - thus images.
> 
> Glare if I understand it correctly (as I likely do not, as it is a 
> nascent
> project) establishes a single artifact repository, but seems to be 
> heading in the right direction of creating consistency.
> 
> 
> In short, I don't know...
> 
> 
> It does look like a good talking point for Vancouver Forum, but we 
> will likely need to make some progress on "NKB" in order to describe 
> the needs and target behaviors by then.
> 
> 
> / Chris
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) 
> <gergely.csatari at nokia.com <mailto:gergely.csatari at nokia.com>>
> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:03:07 PM
> To: Narotzki, Idan (Nokia - IL/Kfar Sava); Mikhail Fedosin
> Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org <mailto:edge-computing at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: [Edge-computing] Glare and image synchronisation
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> There is an ongoing discussion about VM and container image 
> synchronization between edge cloud instances in the edge computing group.
> 
> 
> 
> I have some faint memories, that we dicussed this kind of features 
> for the future of Glare, but I’m not sure anymore. . .
> 
> 
> 
> Are there any plans to implement these kind of features into Glare?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gerg0
> 
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