From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Wed Aug 1 17:07:45 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 17:07:45 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Image handling in edge environment Message-ID: Hi, Thanks for the discussion. Minutes are here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/edge_computing_group/2018/edge_computing_group.2018-08-01-16.01.html Br, Gerg0 -----Original Appointment----- From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 8:58 AM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); 'edge-computing' Cc: Kristi Nikolla; Paul Bankert; David.Paterson at dell.com; Silverman, Ben; Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com; Srikumar Venugopal; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE); Giulio Fidente; Shuquan Huang; Jan Walzer; Martin Bäckström; saiyagar at redhat.com; Christopher Price; Beierl, Mark Subject: Image handling in edge environment When: szerda 2018. augusztus 1 18:00-19:00 (UTC+01:00) Belgrade, Bratislava, Budapest, Ljubljana, Prague. Where: webex / #edge-computing-group Hi, Let's spend this time to discuss the alternatives for Image handling in edge environment listed in here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Image_handling_in_edge_environment * Check if the alternatives were captured correctly * Check the pros and cons * Check the concerns and questions * Decide if an alternative is a dead end For some strange reasons I do not receive mails from the OpenStack mailing list servers anymore, so if you have anything to discuss about this please use #edge-computing-group or add me directly to the mails. Br, Gerg0 --------------------------- 8< ------------ Webex: https://nokiameetings.webex.com/meet/gergely.csatari Telco if you need it: Internal : 8200300 Hungary: +3614088997 Global numbers Access code: 957 007 218 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have information captured from pervious discussions here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone_edge_architectures In an attempt to find a time slot that is doable in most time zones I created the following poll to have the first meeting this week: https://doodle.com/poll/ke39uz49znqh4xci We can agree on another slot or alternating slots onwards to make attending the meeting more convenient. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó From ildiko at openstack.org Tue Aug 7 14:04:05 2018 From: ildiko at openstack.org (Ildiko Vancsa) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 16:04:05 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Edge Computing Group meeting now Message-ID: <04F15632-8487-4795-8D1E-0CBF61DBF58C@openstack.org> Hi, Just a friendly reminder that we have the Edge Computing Group weekly call in the US - Europe friendly slot, now. :) You can find more information here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group#Meetings Thanks, Ildikó From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Thu Aug 2 08:43:12 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 08:43:12 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Review of Dublin edge notes Message-ID: Hi, Let's continue the IRC meeting to discuss the comments to the Dublin edge notes from 5.3.2.15 Quotas receiver side: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG. Notes of the previous meetings: * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes/2018/ * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes/2018/review_of_dublin_edge_notes.2018-04-20-12.58.html * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_ii/2018/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_ii.2018-04-25-14.01.html * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_03/2018/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_03.2018-05-11-13.00.html Please note, that the correction of the comments is not finished yet, tracking of comment correction is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Dublin-edge-notes-wiki Br, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/calendar Size: 5396 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fuqiao at chinamobile.com Thu Aug 2 09:08:20 2018 From: fuqiao at chinamobile.com (fuqiao at chinamobile.com) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 17:08:20 +0800 Subject: [Edge-computing] Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation References: <2018072312250611623114@chinamobile.com>, <9386A548-0045-4AFB-96D4-04AAE5AA5443@openstack.org>, <2018072414145284095817@chinamobile.com>, , , , , <90f2d7fa-97b4-4745-5668-06c2ab45d54c@suse.com>, <2018072609574044704537@chinamobile.com>, , Message-ID: <2018080217082013278133@chinamobile.com> Hi, all. We continue the discussion about the keystone demo on ONS on yesterday's edge cloud call and today's EC WG call. The detailed progress are kept in the following etherpad page, under the OPNFV bullet. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ECG_Keystone_Testing In general, we have made some progress on the demo setup, the resources for the demo, and the test scenarios. 1, for the lab resource, Julien will help to save some resource for the demo. I guess that will be in one of our ZTE lab? is that right, @Julien? 2, for demo setup, Manuel helps to give some introduction about the current progress for XCI. For now, we think we could promote the demo by deploy XCI twice in one lab, there are some manuel work required to setup the keystone federation. Details about the federation deployment are kept in Colleen's blog. http://www.gazlene.net/demystifying-keystone-federation.html Manuel will help look into this and see if it is possible to automate these. But we may need help from the keystone team. 3, for the test scenarios, Georg propose we could look into the impact of network condition, scalability, and hardware limitation, and see how these aspects can impact keystone federation. I am trying to propose the following 3 test cases, and hope we could continue the discussion next week. TC01: add network delay between user agent and identity provider. See how latency influence the federation mechanism TC02: add bandwidth limitation between user agent and identity provider, see how bandwidth influence TC03: creat a scenario with a number of (e.g. 1M) users authenticate together, from a certain nunber (e.g. 2) of service provider. and see how the scalability is for the identity provider. Such case could also be done when there are latency and bandwidth limitation between the user agent and the identity provider. I would like to invite the keystone team and the edge cloud team to discuss about the test cases together during our next call. Thank you. 中国移动研究院 网络与IT技术研究所 付乔 15901025951 From: Georg Kunz Date: 2018-07-31 05:33 To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); fuqiao at chinamobile.com; rsblendido; Tim Irnich; ildiko CC: trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui; Manuel Buil Subject: RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi all, Thanks Gerg0. In the meantime, I have also added two sections to the etherpad: i) Test dimensions: Here I wanted to sketch test parameters beyond the purely functional tests that are/will be implemented in Tempest. The goal is to investigate how OPNFV test tools and environments can contribute to expanding the test coverage implemented in the OpenStack CI. ii) Setup: we haven’t settled yet on the setup we want to use for the demo. This section summarizes a simple proposal which intends to strike a balance between a fully automatic deployment via XCI and manual steps to get a demo up and running in time. Feedback is very welcome. I am sorry if I missed that, but did we agree on a follow up meeting this week? Cheers Georg From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:16 AM To: fuqiao at chinamobile.com; rsblendido ; Georg Kunz ; Tim Irnich ; ildiko Cc: trevor.cooper ; Periyasamy Palanisamy ; zhaoqihui ; Manuel Buil Subject: RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi, I’ve added the log in demo idea to the „ONS demo ideas” section of the etherpad. Maybe we should verify with Keystone guys if this is possible 😉 before we continue implementing it. Br, Gerg0 From: fuqiao at chinamobile.com [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 3:58 AM To: rsblendido ; georg.kunz ; tim.irnich ; ildiko Cc: trevor.cooper ; periyasamy.palanisamy ; zhaoqihui ; Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) ; Manuel Buil Subject: Re: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi, all. thank you for the good discussion yesterday. I think we at least get the ball rolling from OPNFV side. @Ildiko, Gergely will kindly help to provide a demo story for the keystone federation on the etherpad page, so as to help us get better understanding on what the keystone federation will do and what kind of testing we could excute. we plan to continue the discussion of the test scenario and test cases on next week's EC WG call, if you can help save a time slot? Thank you again and hope to talk to you soon. 中国移动研究院 网络与IT技术研究所 付乔 15901025951 From: Rossella Sblendido Date: 2018-07-25 18:07 To: Georg Kunz; Tim Irnich; fuqiao at chinamobile.com; ildiko CC: trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui Subject: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi Georg, I got confused, thanks for the clarification! Rossella On 07/24/2018 11:34 PM, Georg Kunz wrote: > Hi Rosella, > > One comment for clarification: I am aware that baremetal deployments are still work in progress. Because of this reason my point was to install XCI virtual sandbox deployments on pre-configured baremetal hosts - explicitly skipping the baremetal deployment part of the hosts for the demo. Sorry, if that was not clear. > > Best regards > Georg > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rossella Sblendido > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 12:38 PM > To: Georg Kunz ; Tim Irnich ; fuqiao at chinamobile.com; ildiko > Cc: trevor.cooper ; Periyasamy Palanisamy ; zhaoqihui > Subject: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation > > Hi all, > > On 07/24/2018 11:16 AM, Georg Kunz wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> >> chiming in here - please let me know if the following has already been >> discussed. >> >> >> I agree that it would be good to refine the value proposition of the >> demo, i.e. where exactly can OPNFV add a value. In particular, what >> are the shortcomings of a DevStack environment? An automatic >> deployment of a federated Keystone is certainly a basic requirement to >> do anything useful, but that shouldn't be the sole value of the demo >> alone. In principle, this can also be done in a Devstack environment >> (-> see the entire OpenStack CI). > I agree. >> >> >> Instead, we should focus on creating edge-like environments and tests. >> Some ideas: >> >> * I would favor deploying multiple federated tiny OpenStack instances >> (almost just Keystone?) over two full deployments (typical OPNFV >> scenario) to investigate scalability questions. >> >> * meddle with the network properties between instances by means of >> simple traffic shaping tools (tc and netem) > > I like this one, I see it closer to real case. We could also completely cut the network for one deployment which was one of the tests mentioned during one of the last call if I good recall. >> * If we go for two "full" OpenStack deployments (typical OPNFV >> scenario), we could set up two XCI sandboxes on two baremetal >> machines > > this can be tricky, as far as I know baremetal on XCI is still WIP > > I can help and involve somebody more familiar than myself with XCI to join the effort here. > Shall we schedule a kickoff call so that we can outline the demo and split tasks? > > Rossella> >> >> Cheers >> Georg >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> *From:* Tim Irnich >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:03:39 AM >> *To:* fuqiao at chinamobile.com; ildiko >> *Cc:* trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui; Rossella >> Sblendido; Georg Kunz >> *Subject:* RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open >> Infrastructure Federation >> >> >> +Rosella and Georg. >> >> >> >> Key question is how much do we need and what exactly do we want to >> build? Since I missed last week’s keystone testing call I’m not sure >> if I have the latest on what’s needed but in my mind we simply need >> two OPNFV deployments with keystone (most scenarios should have that) >> side-by-side and then write a few automated tests. Peri has some ideas >> about modifying XCI so that it can deploy more than one stack from the >> same jumphost, which sounded like a good idea to me. >> >> >> >> Given that we want to demonstrate that setting up environments like >> this in OPNFV is simple, we should not need much effort for an initial stab. >> >> >> >> SO who would be able to spend time on this or find someone else to do it? >> >> >> >> Regards, Tim >> >> >> >> *From:* fuqiao at chinamobile.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2018 08:15 >> *To:* ildiko >> *Cc:* Tim Irnich ; trevor.cooper >> ; Periyasamy Palanisamy >> ; zhaoqihui >> >> *Subject:* Re: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open >> Infrastructure Federation >> >> >> >> Hi, Ildiko. thank you for the reply. >> >> I am afraid the edge computing call this week is too late for me to >> stay sober and join the discussion... >> >> probably we can spend some time discuss about this in next week's edge >> computing call, which time is more Asia friendly. >> >> However, one thing at hand is, Brandon is asking about whether we have >> any updates on the demo discription, and he would very much need us to >> reply before Wednesday. So I guess one thing I need to confirm now is >> whether we have enough community interest and resource to accomplish >> this demo in such a short time? Do you have any idea about this? >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> >> 中国移动研究院 >> >> 网络与IT技术研究所 >> >> 付乔15901025951 >> >> >> >> *From:* Ildiko Vancsa >> >> *Date:* 2018-07-24 12:28 >> >> *To:* fuqiao at chinamobile.com >> >> *CC:* tim.irnich ; Trevor Cooper >> ; periyasamy.palanisamy >> ; zhaoqihui >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure >> Federation >> >> Hi Fu Qiao, >> >> >> >> Great, thank you for the update. >> >> >> >> We will have follow up discussions on Keystone Edge architecture >> options, so we didn’t really get to the end of that one. >> >> >> >> I will be flying during the time of tomorrow’s call. We can spend >> some time on this topic on the Edge Computing Group call if you can >> make that one? >> >> >> >> If not we can look into setting up something separately or sync on >> this thread. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ildikó >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 2018. Jul 23., at 6:25, fuqiao at chinamobile.com wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hi，all. Seems that our demo proposal has been accepted. >> >> > Since I am out of office last week, I am not able to join ildiko's call for the discussion about the demo. Do you have any updates for this? >> >> > Ildiko, are you OK to share the progress of the discussion on this week's edge cloud call? >> >> > Thank you! >> >> > >> >> > fuqiao at chinamobile.com >> >> > >> >> > From: Brandon Wick >> >> > Date: 2018-07-21 09:05 >> >> > To: fuqiao; Cooper, Trevor >> >> > Subject: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure >> Federation >> >> > Dear Fu Qiao & Trevor: >> >> > >> >> > We are pleased to inform you that your demo idea submitted for the LF Networking Booth at Open Networking Summit Europe: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation has been accepted. Congratulations! There were many more >> submissions than available slots and the LFN leadership team thought >> your demo would provide significant value to the community. >> >> > >> >> > We are not yet final with the booth/kiosk design yet, but we will be following up soon with more information on the demo station, power, storage, chairs, internet, etc. We'll also share a timeline with a detailed >> list of next steps, but in the meantime, please provide us with the >> following by Tuesday, July 24. >> >> > • Confirm receipt of this email and that you still intend to attend ONS and execute this demo. >> >> > • Confirm your final demo title (10 words max) >> >> > • Confirm your final demo abstract (150 words max) for external publication (ONS website, Blogs, Newsletters, etc) and participating projects and companies. Note: This should be compelling answering the question >> Why should someone want to come see the demo)? >> >> > Best, >> >> > >> >> > Brandon Wick >> >> > Senior Integrated Marketing Manager >> >> > The Linux Foundation >> >> > bwick at linuxfoundation.org >> >> > +1.917.282.0960 >> >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Tue Aug 7 13:59:28 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 13:59:28 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Image handling in edge environment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I've updated the wiki based on the minutes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Image_handling_in_edge_environment Note, that I've separated the multiple backend alternative to a pull mode and a distributed storage subalternatives. Br, Gerg0 From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 7:08 PM To: 'edge-computing' Cc: Kristi Nikolla ; Paul Bankert ; David.Paterson at dell.com; Silverman, Ben ; Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com; Srikumar Venugopal ; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE) ; Giulio Fidente ; Shuquan Huang ; Jan Walzer ; Martin Bäckström ; saiyagar at redhat.com; Christopher Price ; Beierl, Mark Subject: RE: Image handling in edge environment Hi, Thanks for the discussion. Minutes are here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/edge_computing_group/2018/edge_computing_group.2018-08-01-16.01.html Br, Gerg0 -----Original Appointment----- From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 8:58 AM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); 'edge-computing' Cc: Kristi Nikolla; Paul Bankert; David.Paterson at dell.com; Silverman, Ben; Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com; Srikumar Venugopal; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE); Giulio Fidente; Shuquan Huang; Jan Walzer; Martin Bäckström; saiyagar at redhat.com; Christopher Price; Beierl, Mark Subject: Image handling in edge environment When: szerda 2018. augusztus 1 18:00-19:00 (UTC+01:00) Belgrade, Bratislava, Budapest, Ljubljana, Prague. Where: webex / #edge-computing-group Hi, Let's spend this time to discuss the alternatives for Image handling in edge environment listed in here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Image_handling_in_edge_environment * Check if the alternatives were captured correctly * Check the pros and cons * Check the concerns and questions * Decide if an alternative is a dead end For some strange reasons I do not receive mails from the OpenStack mailing list servers anymore, so if you have anything to discuss about this please use #edge-computing-group or add me directly to the mails. Br, Gerg0 --------------------------- 8< ------------ Webex: https://nokiameetings.webex.com/meet/gergely.csatari Telco if you need it: Internal : 8200300 Hungary: +3614088997 Global numbers Access code: 957 007 218 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bdobreli at redhat.com Wed Aug 8 16:09:45 2018 From: bdobreli at redhat.com (Bogdan Dobrelya) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 18:09:45 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Image handling in edge environment Message-ID: <2e2235fc-fa5b-fc27-e594-eae8a25b3f21@redhat.com> > -----Original Appointment----- > From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 8:58 AM > To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); 'edge-computing' > Cc: Kristi Nikolla; Paul Bankert; David.Paterson at dell.com; Silverman, Ben; Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com; Srikumar Venugopal; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE); Giulio Fidente; Shuquan Huang; Jan Walzer; Martin Bäckström; saiyagar at redhat.com; Christopher Price; Beierl, Mark > Subject: Image handling in edge environment > When: szerda 2018. augusztus 1 18:00-19:00 (UTC+01:00) Belgrade, Bratislava, Budapest, Ljubljana, Prague. > Where: webex / #edge-computing-group > > Hi, > > Let's spend this time to discuss the alternatives for Image handling in edge environment listed in here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Image_handling_in_edge_environment > > > * Check if the alternatives were captured correctly > * Check the pros and cons > * Check the concerns and questions I have a few questions (or rather just thoughts) for the "new synchronization service" discussed earlier in [0]: > * Several Glances with an independent syncronisation service, sych via Glance API [2] > * Pros: > * Every edge cloud instance can have a different Glance backend > * Can support multiple OpenStack versions in the different edge cloud instances > * Can be extended to support multiple VIM types > * Cons: > * Needs a new synchronisation service > [Greg] Don’t believe this is a big con ... suspect we are going to need this new synchronization service for synchronizing resources of a number of other openstack services ... not just glance. > [G0]: I agree, it is not a big con, but it is a con 😊 Should I add some note saying, that a synch service is most probably needed anyway? ... and some concerns for the database replication capabilities to support always available autonomy (AAA requirement, further on) of cloud instances, which is (IIUC) an ability to make progress (i.e. DB records in the local cloud DB), when it is managed locally and is disconnected from the central cloud/control plane. Here it is. We *will* need that new sync service, for any service that is expected to sync its state from edge cloud instances to the central cloud of clouds and support that AAA requirement. And highly likely a new or additional data storage solution for that purpose as well. At very least in order to replicate state changes right and resolve conflicts, inevitable for the described AAA case. The issue is mysql/mariadb/galera database transactional consitency models [1], like read committed or repeatable read, do not support that AAA scenario well. Repeatable read transaction isolation level (TI), and stronger consistency models, are "Unavailable" by design (see [1] for the terminology I'm using here). That means it may require the progress to be stopped (no writes accepted and, sometimes, no reads) to maintain DB consistency for the corner cases, like being partitioned/disconnected off the central cloud. But that is a totally accepted situation for AAA, and it expects writes to proceed for edge cloud instances! On the other hand, the read commited transaction isolation level, while "Totally available", provides really poor consistency guarantees IMO, comparing to the better options (see "Sticky Available"). So I believe that new sync service, backed with another data/KV storage solution, must support the best of existing AA consistency models, like "Sticky Available" causal/RTC [2],[3]. While galera et al inter-sites replication of DB, like it was proposed [4] for Keystone federation might not fit the aforementioned consistency requirements/constraints. Its time to consider tools and options for AAA requirement. WDYT? [0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/edge-computing/2018-July/000322.html [1] http://jepsen.io/consistency [2] http://jepsen.io/consistency/models/causal [3] http://www.cs.cornell.edu/lorenzo/papers/cac-tr.pdf [4] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone_edge_architectures#Keystone_database_replication > * Decide if an alternative is a dead end > > For some strange reasons I do not receive mails from the OpenStack mailing list servers anymore, so if you have anything to discuss about this please use #edge-computing-group or add me directly to the mails. > > Br, > Gerg0 -- Best regards, Bogdan Dobrelya, Irc #bogdando From ildiko at openstack.org Wed Aug 8 20:27:15 2018 From: ildiko at openstack.org (Ildiko Vancsa) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 22:27:15 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Keystone Edge Architectures meeting on Thursday (Aug 9) Message-ID: Hi, The first meeting on Keystone Edge Architectures is scheduled for this Thursday (August 9) at 6am PDT / 1300 UTC. You can find the call details here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group#Keystone Our previous discussions about this topic are captured on this wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone_edge_architectures Further information on Keystone federation testing and joint activities with the OPNFV Edge Cloud Project can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ECG_Keystone_Testing Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó From fuqiao at chinamobile.com Thu Aug 9 02:58:05 2018 From: fuqiao at chinamobile.com (fuqiao at chinamobile.com) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:58:05 +0800 Subject: [Edge-computing] [opnfv-tech-discuss] Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation References: <2018072312250611623114@chinamobile.com>, <9386A548-0045-4AFB-96D4-04AAE5AA5443@openstack.org>, <2018072414145284095817@chinamobile.com>, , , , , <90f2d7fa-97b4-4745-5668-06c2ab45d54c@suse.com>, <2018072609574044704537@chinamobile.com>, , , <1547061ACFD269C0.20356@lists.opnfv.org> Message-ID: <2018080910580485728310@chinamobile.com> Hi, all. We have made quite good progress on yesterday's call. Attached is the slides I used yesterday. I think we have reached good consensus on the test scenarios, and 4 possible test cases. We also try to distrubute the whole work into 4 task. And we got Mark and Gabriel stand up on yesterday's call for help on the deployment and test cases development. Julien also contacted me offline after the call that he can also help in the manual deployment and configuration. I would like to say thank you so much for our volunteers. I update the etherpad to include these new updates as well. @Manuel, could you please also share your progress with both Mark and Julien, so that you can collaborate together. OPNFV demo discription and progress updates The following slides discribe the testing scenario, and test cases. https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/EC/Edge+cloud?preview=/20745277/26837474/Keystone%20Federation%20for%20Edge%20Scenario.pptx DEMO TASK If you would like to perticipate in this demo, please also sign your name after each task. •TASK 1: Find lab resource, requirement: -- Julien •two bare metal servers within one lab. •L3 connections between two servers •TASK 2: manually deploy a keystone to keystone environment, follow the instruction from http://www.gazlene.net/demystifying-keystone-federation.html -- Manuel, Mark Beierl, Julien •TASK 3: Try XCI for automating the deployment and configuration process (depend on experience from TASK 2) -- Manuel •TASK 4: develop test cases (depend on environment provided by TASK 2) -- Gabriel, Mark Beierl 中国移动研究院 网络与IT技术研究所 付乔 15901025951 From: fuqiao Date: 2018-08-02 17:08 To: georg.kunz; gergely.csatari; rsblendido; tim.irnich; ildiko CC: trevor.cooper; periyasamy.palanisamy; zhaoqihui; Manuel Buil; opnfv-tech-discuss; edge-computing Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi, all. We continue the discussion about the keystone demo on ONS on yesterday's edge cloud call and today's EC WG call. The detailed progress are kept in the following etherpad page, under the OPNFV bullet. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ECG_Keystone_Testing In general, we have made some progress on the demo setup, the resources for the demo, and the test scenarios. 1, for the lab resource, Julien will help to save some resource for the demo. I guess that will be in one of our ZTE lab? is that right, @Julien? 2, for demo setup, Manuel helps to give some introduction about the current progress for XCI. For now, we think we could promote the demo by deploy XCI twice in one lab, there are some manuel work required to setup the keystone federation. Details about the federation deployment are kept in Colleen's blog. http://www.gazlene.net/demystifying-keystone-federation.html Manuel will help look into this and see if it is possible to automate these. But we may need help from the keystone team. 3, for the test scenarios, Georg propose we could look into the impact of network condition, scalability, and hardware limitation, and see how these aspects can impact keystone federation. I am trying to propose the following 3 test cases, and hope we could continue the discussion next week. TC01: add network delay between user agent and identity provider. See how latency influence the federation mechanism TC02: add bandwidth limitation between user agent and identity provider, see how bandwidth influence TC03: creat a scenario with a number of (e.g. 1M) users authenticate together, from a certain nunber (e.g. 2) of service provider. and see how the scalability is for the identity provider. Such case could also be done when there are latency and bandwidth limitation between the user agent and the identity provider. I would like to invite the keystone team and the edge cloud team to discuss about the test cases together during our next call. Thank you. 中国移动研究院 网络与IT技术研究所 付乔 15901025951 From: Georg Kunz Date: 2018-07-31 05:33 To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); fuqiao at chinamobile.com; rsblendido; Tim Irnich; ildiko CC: trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui; Manuel Buil Subject: RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi all, Thanks Gerg0. In the meantime, I have also added two sections to the etherpad: i) Test dimensions: Here I wanted to sketch test parameters beyond the purely functional tests that are/will be implemented in Tempest. The goal is to investigate how OPNFV test tools and environments can contribute to expanding the test coverage implemented in the OpenStack CI. ii) Setup: we haven’t settled yet on the setup we want to use for the demo. This section summarizes a simple proposal which intends to strike a balance between a fully automatic deployment via XCI and manual steps to get a demo up and running in time. Feedback is very welcome. I am sorry if I missed that, but did we agree on a follow up meeting this week? Cheers Georg From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:16 AM To: fuqiao at chinamobile.com; rsblendido ; Georg Kunz ; Tim Irnich ; ildiko Cc: trevor.cooper ; Periyasamy Palanisamy ; zhaoqihui ; Manuel Buil Subject: RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi, I’ve added the log in demo idea to the „ONS demo ideas” section of the etherpad. Maybe we should verify with Keystone guys if this is possible 😉 before we continue implementing it. Br, Gerg0 From: fuqiao at chinamobile.com [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 3:58 AM To: rsblendido ; georg.kunz ; tim.irnich ; ildiko Cc: trevor.cooper ; periyasamy.palanisamy ; zhaoqihui ; Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) ; Manuel Buil Subject: Re: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi, all. thank you for the good discussion yesterday. I think we at least get the ball rolling from OPNFV side. @Ildiko, Gergely will kindly help to provide a demo story for the keystone federation on the etherpad page, so as to help us get better understanding on what the keystone federation will do and what kind of testing we could excute. we plan to continue the discussion of the test scenario and test cases on next week's EC WG call, if you can help save a time slot? Thank you again and hope to talk to you soon. 中国移动研究院 网络与IT技术研究所 付乔 15901025951 From: Rossella Sblendido Date: 2018-07-25 18:07 To: Georg Kunz; Tim Irnich; fuqiao at chinamobile.com; ildiko CC: trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui Subject: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation Hi Georg, I got confused, thanks for the clarification! Rossella On 07/24/2018 11:34 PM, Georg Kunz wrote: > Hi Rosella, > > One comment for clarification: I am aware that baremetal deployments are still work in progress. Because of this reason my point was to install XCI virtual sandbox deployments on pre-configured baremetal hosts - explicitly skipping the baremetal deployment part of the hosts for the demo. Sorry, if that was not clear. > > Best regards > Georg > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rossella Sblendido > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 12:38 PM > To: Georg Kunz ; Tim Irnich ; fuqiao at chinamobile.com; ildiko > Cc: trevor.cooper ; Periyasamy Palanisamy ; zhaoqihui > Subject: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation > > Hi all, > > On 07/24/2018 11:16 AM, Georg Kunz wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> >> chiming in here - please let me know if the following has already been >> discussed. >> >> >> I agree that it would be good to refine the value proposition of the >> demo, i.e. where exactly can OPNFV add a value. In particular, what >> are the shortcomings of a DevStack environment? An automatic >> deployment of a federated Keystone is certainly a basic requirement to >> do anything useful, but that shouldn't be the sole value of the demo >> alone. In principle, this can also be done in a Devstack environment >> (-> see the entire OpenStack CI). > I agree. >> >> >> Instead, we should focus on creating edge-like environments and tests. >> Some ideas: >> >> * I would favor deploying multiple federated tiny OpenStack instances >> (almost just Keystone?) over two full deployments (typical OPNFV >> scenario) to investigate scalability questions. >> >> * meddle with the network properties between instances by means of >> simple traffic shaping tools (tc and netem) > > I like this one, I see it closer to real case. We could also completely cut the network for one deployment which was one of the tests mentioned during one of the last call if I good recall. >> * If we go for two "full" OpenStack deployments (typical OPNFV >> scenario), we could set up two XCI sandboxes on two baremetal >> machines > > this can be tricky, as far as I know baremetal on XCI is still WIP > > I can help and involve somebody more familiar than myself with XCI to join the effort here. > Shall we schedule a kickoff call so that we can outline the demo and split tasks? > > Rossella> >> >> Cheers >> Georg >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> *From:* Tim Irnich >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:03:39 AM >> *To:* fuqiao at chinamobile.com; ildiko >> *Cc:* trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui; Rossella >> Sblendido; Georg Kunz >> *Subject:* RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open >> Infrastructure Federation >> >> >> +Rosella and Georg. >> >> >> >> Key question is how much do we need and what exactly do we want to >> build? Since I missed last week’s keystone testing call I’m not sure >> if I have the latest on what’s needed but in my mind we simply need >> two OPNFV deployments with keystone (most scenarios should have that) >> side-by-side and then write a few automated tests. Peri has some ideas >> about modifying XCI so that it can deploy more than one stack from the >> same jumphost, which sounded like a good idea to me. >> >> >> >> Given that we want to demonstrate that setting up environments like >> this in OPNFV is simple, we should not need much effort for an initial stab. >> >> >> >> SO who would be able to spend time on this or find someone else to do it? >> >> >> >> Regards, Tim >> >> >> >> *From:* fuqiao at chinamobile.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2018 08:15 >> *To:* ildiko >> *Cc:* Tim Irnich ; trevor.cooper >> ; Periyasamy Palanisamy >> ; zhaoqihui >> >> *Subject:* Re: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open >> Infrastructure Federation >> >> >> >> Hi, Ildiko. thank you for the reply. >> >> I am afraid the edge computing call this week is too late for me to >> stay sober and join the discussion... >> >> probably we can spend some time discuss about this in next week's edge >> computing call, which time is more Asia friendly. >> >> However, one thing at hand is, Brandon is asking about whether we have >> any updates on the demo discription, and he would very much need us to >> reply before Wednesday. So I guess one thing I need to confirm now is >> whether we have enough community interest and resource to accomplish >> this demo in such a short time? Do you have any idea about this? >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> >> 中国移动研究院 >> >> 网络与IT技术研究所 >> >> 付乔15901025951 >> >> >> >> *From:* Ildiko Vancsa >> >> *Date:* 2018-07-24 12:28 >> >> *To:* fuqiao at chinamobile.com >> >> *CC:* tim.irnich ; Trevor Cooper >> ; periyasamy.palanisamy >> ; zhaoqihui >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure >> Federation >> >> Hi Fu Qiao, >> >> >> >> Great, thank you for the update. >> >> >> >> We will have follow up discussions on Keystone Edge architecture >> options, so we didn’t really get to the end of that one. >> >> >> >> I will be flying during the time of tomorrow’s call. We can spend >> some time on this topic on the Edge Computing Group call if you can >> make that one? >> >> >> >> If not we can look into setting up something separately or sync on >> this thread. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ildikó >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 2018. Jul 23., at 6:25, fuqiao at chinamobile.com wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hi，all. Seems that our demo proposal has been accepted. >> >> > Since I am out of office last week, I am not able to join ildiko's call for the discussion about the demo. Do you have any updates for this? >> >> > Ildiko, are you OK to share the progress of the discussion on this week's edge cloud call? >> >> > Thank you! >> >> > >> >> > fuqiao at chinamobile.com >> >> > >> >> > From: Brandon Wick >> >> > Date: 2018-07-21 09:05 >> >> > To: fuqiao; Cooper, Trevor >> >> > Subject: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure >> Federation >> >> > Dear Fu Qiao & Trevor: >> >> > >> >> > We are pleased to inform you that your demo idea submitted for the LF Networking Booth at Open Networking Summit Europe: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation has been accepted. Congratulations! There were many more >> submissions than available slots and the LFN leadership team thought >> your demo would provide significant value to the community. >> >> > >> >> > We are not yet final with the booth/kiosk design yet, but we will be following up soon with more information on the demo station, power, storage, chairs, internet, etc. We'll also share a timeline with a detailed >> list of next steps, but in the meantime, please provide us with the >> following by Tuesday, July 24. >> >> > • Confirm receipt of this email and that you still intend to attend ONS and execute this demo. >> >> > • Confirm your final demo title (10 words max) >> >> > • Confirm your final demo abstract (150 words max) for external publication (ONS website, Blogs, Newsletters, etc) and participating projects and companies. 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What is the general status of the ‘Federated Keystone in Edge Environment’ TESTING ? i.e. · Are we still in the process of setting up a test environment ? (I think this is the case) · Is there a timeline on when we think o Setup will be done, and o we will be able run some of the tests ? o ( Ideally results would be available for discussion at PTG meetings ) ( Interested in seeing results ) Greg. From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" Date: Monday, July 23, 2018 at 6:49 AM To: "David.Paterson at dell.com" , "georg.kunz at ericsson.com" Cc: Ildiko Vancsa , 'edge-computing' , Nick Jones Subject: [Edge-computing] [keystone][testing]: Test scenarios Hi, I’ve listed some scenario on title level to row 41 or the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ECG_Keystone_Testing . Some question: * Do we keep the test design in the etherpad or should I move it to the wiki (I think Wiki is better, but you know this already 😊) * Do we want to test only the Keystone functionality or Keystone + mod shib? * Any comments? Br, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beth.cohen at verizon.com Thu Aug 9 14:40:06 2018 From: beth.cohen at verizon.com (beth.cohen at verizon.com) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 14:40:06 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Edge Use Case Meeting Message-ID: <632ba5d661ca49a9bdc36b2b11b57734@scwexch25apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> Folks – Here is the new Edge Use Case meeting invite to replace Jesse’s. 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Testing on several locations in OPNFV environment with injected network errors and delays is not ready yet So more no-s than yes-es, but we are somewhat progressing. Br, Gerg0 From: Waines, Greg Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:35 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) ; David.Paterson at dell.com; georg.kunz at ericsson.com Cc: Ildiko Vancsa ; 'edge-computing' ; Nick Jones Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] [keystone][testing]: Test scenarios Gergely, I might have missed this in the meeting this morning. What is the general status of the ‘Federated Keystone in Edge Environment’ TESTING ? i.e. * Are we still in the process of setting up a test environment ? (I think this is the case) * Is there a timeline on when we think * Setup will be done, and * we will be able run some of the tests ? * ( Ideally results would be available for discussion at PTG meetings ) ( Interested in seeing results ) Greg. From: "Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)" > Date: Monday, July 23, 2018 at 6:49 AM To: "David.Paterson at dell.com" >, "georg.kunz at ericsson.com" > Cc: Ildiko Vancsa >, 'edge-computing' >, Nick Jones > Subject: [Edge-computing] [keystone][testing]: Test scenarios Hi, I’ve listed some scenario on title level to row 41 or the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ECG_Keystone_Testing . Some question: * Do we keep the test design in the etherpad or should I move it to the wiki (I think Wiki is better, but you know this already 😊) * Do we want to test only the Keystone functionality or Keystone + mod shib? * Any comments? Br, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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After https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/59763/ is merged I will replace the deployment scenarions part with a link to the OPNFV document There are some open questions what we found during this and the previous reviews * In 5.3.4.1 Remote control controlling part what are the operations what should be available? Do we imagine a structure similarly ott he image and keystone data distribution? * How can we make the distinction between the connectivity from the backhaul to the edge site (i.e. inter edge sites), vs the connectivity between the edge site and devops/users that are in the vicinity of the edge site * Regarding the storage of small edge deployment: Is the storage a single, locally attached unit? -> https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/59763/ suggests "mainly local storage" * Regarding the storage of small edge deployment: What's about image repository service (i.e. are you expecting a fully indepedent edge node or can we envision to have just a node that behave like a compute node in the OpenStack terminology?) * At edge there can be many vm/cn applications evolve as per the need. Any thoughts on how such app management is taken care. * What should be the size of the all the OpenStack components in the different edge deployment scenarios in terms of CPU, memory, disk and hardware units Any comments or notes are welcome. Br, Gerg0 Br, Gerg0 -----Original Appointment----- From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 10:43 AM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); 'edge-computing'; Srikumar Venugopal; Waines, Greg; beth.cohen at verizon.com; Mathieu LAGRANGE; Bernier, Daniel; Martin Bäckström; Randy.Perryman at dell.com; Éric Sarault; Francis Dagenais; Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com; Silverman, Ben; D'ANDREA, JOE (JOE); Brendon Mifsud (mifsudb); Shuquan Huang; Beierl, Mark; saiyagar at redhat.com; Jan Walzer; jonathan at openstack.org; Teresa Peluso; Peter Kapatsos; Mats Karlsson A; Paul Bankert Cc: CARVER, PAUL; Christopher Price Subject: Review of Dublin edge notes When: csütörtök 2018. augusztus 9 16:00-17:00 (UTC+01:00) Belgrade, Bratislava, Budapest, Ljubljana, Prague. Where: #edge-computing-group on freenode Hi, Let's continue the IRC meeting to discuss the comments to the Dublin edge notes from 5.3.2.15 Quotas receiver side: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Edge_Discussions_Dublin_PTG. Notes of the previous meetings: * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes/2018/ * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes/2018/review_of_dublin_edge_notes.2018-04-20-12.58.html * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_ii/2018/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_ii.2018-04-25-14.01.html * http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_03/2018/review_of_dublin_edge_notes_03.2018-05-11-13.00.html Please note, that the correction of the comments is not finished yet, tracking of comment correction is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Dublin-edge-notes-wiki Br, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you’re planning to attend the PTG, but haven’t registered yet you can find the registration link on the PTG website[6]. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-ptg-dublin [2] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/edge-alans-problems [3] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-edge-keystone-brainstorming [4] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-stein-ptg [5] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/EdgeComputingGroupPTG4 [6] https://www.openstack.org/ptg From beth.cohen at verizon.com Mon Aug 13 20:05:31 2018 From: beth.cohen at verizon.com (beth.cohen at verizon.com) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 20:05:31 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Invitation: Edge Computing - Use Case Meeting @ Weekly from 1pm to 2pm on Monday (PDT) (edge-computing@lists.openstack.org) Message-ID: <0038244ab61b4c04abab6eb03cf6e310@scwexch25apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> Please remove the invite from Jesse Lampe. 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Aug 23., at 5:07, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: > > Hi, > > Can someone share the source of “EdgeStructure.png” in the whitepaper and/or change “Bare Medal HA” to “Bare Metal HA”? > > Thanks, > Gerg0 > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Thu Aug 23 14:50:41 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:50:41 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] EdgeStructure.png In-Reply-To: <4F9FCB5A-212E-4B98-ADF2-99C38BBC36F8@gmail.com> References: <4F9FCB5A-212E-4B98-ADF2-99C38BBC36F8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Here it is: https://docs.opnfv.org/en/latest/_images/EdgeStructure.png It is embedded into https://docs.opnfv.org/en/latest/submodules/edgecloud/docs/development/requirements/requirements.html#edge-structure Thanks, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Ildiko Vancsa Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 4:16 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] EdgeStructure.png Hi, I couldn’t identify which image you mean. Do you have a pointer to it? Thanks, Ildikó > On 2018. Aug 23., at 5:07, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: > > Hi, > > Can someone share the source of “EdgeStructure.png” in the whitepaper and/or change “Bare Medal HA” to “Bare Metal HA”? > > Thanks, > Gerg0 > _______________________________________________ > Edge-computing mailing list > Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing From ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 18:16:52 2018 From: ildiko.vancsa at gmail.com (Ildiko Vancsa) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:16:52 -0400 Subject: [Edge-computing] EdgeStructure.png In-Reply-To: References: <4F9FCB5A-212E-4B98-ADF2-99C38BBC36F8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <916DB8CB-EBFB-45DA-99DC-87853850115F@gmail.com> Hi, Thanks for clarifying. I thought you meant the Edge Computing Group whitepaper and not the OPNFV document and it got me very confused. Thanks, Ildikó > On 2018. Aug 23., at 10:50, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: > > Hi, > > Here it is: https://docs.opnfv.org/en/latest/_images/EdgeStructure.png > > It is embedded into https://docs.opnfv.org/en/latest/submodules/edgecloud/docs/development/requirements/requirements.html#edge-structure > > Thanks, > Gerg0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ildiko Vancsa > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 4:16 PM > To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] EdgeStructure.png > > Hi, > > I couldn’t identify which image you mean. Do you have a pointer to it? > > Thanks, > Ildikó > > >> On 2018. Aug 23., at 5:07, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Can someone share the source of “EdgeStructure.png” in the whitepaper and/or change “Bare Medal HA” to “Bare Metal HA”? >> >> Thanks, >> Gerg0 >> _______________________________________________ >> Edge-computing mailing list >> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > From zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com Fri Aug 24 01:09:22 2018 From: zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com (=?utf-8?B?6LW15aWH5oWn?=) Date: 24 Aug 2018 09:09:22 +0800 Subject: [Edge-computing] EdgeStructure.png Message-ID: 20180824090922754415@chinamobile.com> Hi Gergely, Thank you for pointing the typo out. Please refer to the attachements for the source files of that figure. Best , Qihui China Mobile Research Institute Department of Network Technology Mobile: 13810659120 发件人: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) 时间: 2018/08/23(星期四)17:07 收件人: edge-computing; 主题: [Edge-computing] EdgeStructure.png Hi, Can someone share the source of “EdgeStructure.png” in the whitepaper and/or change “Bare Medal HA” to “Bare Metal HA”? Thanks, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Edge Structure Source.pptx Type: application/octet-stream Size: 56702 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best , Qihui China Mobile Research Institute Department of Network Technology Mobile: 13810659120 发件人: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) 时间: 2018/08/23(星期四)17:07 收件人: edge-computing; 主题: [Edge-computing] EdgeStructure.png Hi, Can someone share the source of “EdgeStructure.png” in the whitepaper and/or change “Bare Medal HA” to “Bare Metal HA”? Thanks, Gerg0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Fri Aug 24 06:28:29 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 06:28:29 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] EdgeStructure.png In-Reply-To: <916DB8CB-EBFB-45DA-99DC-87853850115F@gmail.com> References: <4F9FCB5A-212E-4B98-ADF2-99C38BBC36F8@gmail.com> <916DB8CB-EBFB-45DA-99DC-87853850115F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Agh. I just mixed up the mailing lists 😊 Br, Gerg0 -----Original Message----- From: Ildiko Vancsa Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 8:17 PM To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] EdgeStructure.png Hi, Thanks for clarifying. I thought you meant the Edge Computing Group whitepaper and not the OPNFV document and it got me very confused. Thanks, Ildikó > On 2018. Aug 23., at 10:50, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: > > Hi, > > Here it is: https://docs.opnfv.org/en/latest/_images/EdgeStructure.png > > It is embedded into https://docs.opnfv.org/en/latest/submodules/edgecloud/docs/development/requirements/requirements.html#edge-structure > > Thanks, > Gerg0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ildiko Vancsa > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 4:16 PM > To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) > Cc: edge-computing at lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Edge-computing] EdgeStructure.png > > Hi, > > I couldn’t identify which image you mean. Do you have a pointer to it? > > Thanks, > Ildikó > > >> On 2018. Aug 23., at 5:07, Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Can someone share the source of “EdgeStructure.png” in the whitepaper and/or change “Bare Medal HA” to “Bare Metal HA”? >> >> Thanks, >> Gerg0 >> _______________________________________________ >> Edge-computing mailing list >> Edge-computing at lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/edge-computing > From eumel at arcor.de Mon Aug 27 15:54:42 2018 From: eumel at arcor.de (Frank Kloeker) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 17:54:42 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] [all] Berlin Hackathon: Hacking the Edge Message-ID: <53844c939fe81fb942b5eed2d8739985@arcor.de> Hello, For the weekend before the Berlin Summit we plan an additional OpenStack community event: "Hacking the Edge" Hackathon. The idea is to build together a community cloud based on Edge technology. We're looking for volunteers: Developers Try out the newest software version from your projects like Nova, Cinder, and Neutron. What's the requirements for Edge and what makes sense? Install different components on different devices and connects all of them. Operators Operation of Edge Cloud is also a challenge. Changes from 'must be online' to 'maybe online'. Which measuring methods are available for monitoring? Where are my backups? Do we need an operation center also in the Edge? Architects General Edge Cloud Architecture. How is the plan for connecting new devices with different connectivity. Scalable application and life cycle management. Bring your own devices like laptop, Raspberry PI, WIFI routers, which you would connect to the Edge Cloud. We host the event location and provide infrastructure, maybe together with a couple of 5G devices, because the venue has one of the first 5G antennas in Germany. Everybody is welcome to join and have fun. We are only limited on the event space. More details are also in the event description. Don't be afraid to ask me directly, via e-mail or IRC. kind regards Frank (eumel8) Registration: https://openstack-hackathon-berlin.eventbrite.com/ Collected ideas/workpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/hacking_the_edge_hackathon_berlin From ildiko at openstack.org Mon Aug 27 18:33:08 2018 From: ildiko at openstack.org (Ildiko Vancsa) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 14:33:08 -0400 Subject: [Edge-computing] Early Bird Pricing Ends Tomorrow - OpenStack Summit Berlin Message-ID: <7A986260-6081-47BF-91D9-B84CEA6B32CC@openstack.org> Hi everyone, Friendly reminder that the early bird ticket price deadline for the OpenStack Summit Berlin is tomorrow, August 28 at 11:59pm PT (August 29, 6:59 UTC). In Berlin, there will be sessions and workshops around open infrastructure use cases, including CI/CD, container infrastructure, edge computing, HPC / AI / GPUs, private & hybrid cloud, public cloud and NFV. In case you haven’t seen it, the agenda is now live and includes sessions and workshops from Ocado Technology, Metronom, Oerlikon, and more! In addition, make sure to check out the Edge Hackathon hosted by Open Telekom Cloud the weekend prior to the Summit. Register NOW before the price increases to $999 USD! Interested in sponsoring the Summit? Find out more here or email summit at openstack.org . Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beth.cohen at verizon.com Mon Aug 27 19:46:20 2018 From: beth.cohen at verizon.com (beth.cohen at verizon.com) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 19:46:20 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Invitation: Edge Computing - Use Case Meeting @ Weekly from 1pm to 2pm on Monday (PDT) (edge-computing@lists.openstack.org) Message-ID: <4096356631344178986ee0f326dcfd9b@scwexch25apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> I am out on vacation this week and will not be able to attend. [Verizon] Beth Cohen DMTS - NFV/SDN Network Product Strategy Verizon Technology 60 Sylvan Rd Waltham, MA 02451 O +781-466-2055 | M +781-434-8553 beth.cohen at verizon.com [Twitter] [Instagram] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rochelle.grober at huawei.com Mon Aug 27 22:17:27 2018 From: rochelle.grober at huawei.com (Rochelle Grober) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:17:27 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Invitation: Edge Computing - Use Case Meeting @ Weekly from 1pm to 2pm on Monday (PDT) (edge-computing@lists.openstack.org) In-Reply-To: <4096356631344178986ee0f326dcfd9b@scwexch25apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> References: <4096356631344178986ee0f326dcfd9b@scwexch25apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> Message-ID: 52113391-69D9-408C-AC93-3AC6CFFB7E85 did it happen? I went to the webex site, but got there ten minutes late. the site said it was either over or cancelled. --Rocky -------------------------------------------------- Rochelle Grober Rochelle Grober M: +1-6508889722(preferred) E: rochelle.grober at huawei.com 2012实验室-硅谷研究所技术规划及合作部 2012 Laboratories-Silicon Valley Technology Planning & Cooperation,Silicon Valley Research Center From:beth.cohen at verizon.com To:edge-computing at lists.openstack.org, Cc:saiyagar at redhat.com,Giovanni Merlino,fherrman at redhat.com, Date:2018-08-27 13:57:38 Subject:[Edge-computing] Invitation: Edge Computing - Use Case Meeting @ Weekly from 1pm to 2pm on Monday (PDT) (edge-computing at lists.openstack.org) I am out on vacation this week and will not be able to attend. [Verizon] Beth Cohen DMTS - NFV/SDN Network Product Strategy Verizon Technology 60 Sylvan Rd Waltham, MA 02451 O +781-466-2055 | M +781-434-8553 beth.cohen at verizon.com [Twitter] [Instagram] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ildiko at openstack.org Tue Aug 28 19:44:59 2018 From: ildiko at openstack.org (Ildiko Vancsa) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 21:44:59 +0200 Subject: [Edge-computing] Preparation for the Forum in Berlin starts now Message-ID: Hi, As I mentioned today on the weekly call as the next OpenStack Summit is approaching it is time to start to think about ideas for the Forum (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum) in Berlin. For those of you who are new to the concept Forum provides a feedback loop between developers and users and gives an opportunity to do strategic planning for upcoming releases of OSF projects in the form of 40-minute long collaborative sessions in parallel to the conference. The participants use etherpad to plan the agenda and capture the notes from the sessions which have a format of open discussion. We are currently in the brainstorming phase for Forum topics. The purpose of this period is to identify areas for feedback or new requirements and collect ideas for cross-project discussions and planning that are also relevant for users. Please note that the more deep dive technical discussions are supposed to happen at the PTG, the purpose of the Forum is to involve users and operators as well in the conversations. As we have a limited number of slots it is very important to reduce duplications during the brainstorming phase. To collect ideas I created an etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ECGBerlinForumBrainstorming __The Forum session proposal period starts on September 12 and closes on September 26.__ Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó From gergely.csatari at nokia.com Fri Aug 31 11:03:43 2018 From: gergely.csatari at nokia.com (Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest)) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 11:03:43 +0000 Subject: [Edge-computing] Status of Keystone federation testing with tempest Message-ID: Hi, I'm working on this for a while, but as I am not a big expert of IdP, Keysone or Tempest I have a bit slow progress. I decided to share what I did and what are my current probelms to 1) inform the team about the progress 2) keep a record for myself 3) hoping for help and/or hints. So I did this: 1) Get an Ubuntu 2) Install devstack with enable_plugin keystone git://git.openstack.org/openstack/keystone enable_service keystone-saml2-federation Here I already ran into some package maangement issues due to some libcurl3 and libcurl4 incompatibility issue what I solved using https://launchpad.net/~xapienz/+archive/ubuntu/curl34 3) Install the Keystone tempest plugin 4) Build a Shibboleth IdP container based on https://github.com/Unicon/shibboleth-idp-dockerized with the configuration I believe is correct. I have a feeling that we will need to set a proper organisation for this if we want to publish this to Docker Hub. By the way is there a container registry maintained in the OpenStack development infra? 5) Run the container and expose 8080, 4443 and 8443 ports This is a half success. Shibboleth contacts Keystone (or actually the Shibboleth apache module) for metadata update, but it works only on the first attempt. The regular updates are not working for some reason. Also I was not able to get a positive answer from the status script of Shibboleth itself, so i just decided to move a bit forward. 6) Set idp_url to https://localhost:8080/idp/profile/SAML2/SOAP/ECP in _request_unscoped_token inside the Keystone tempest plugin. Here I have no idea where the configuration is actually stores and where should I set this in a nice way. 7) Run the tempest tests. Now here I get an error message which tells me about SSL version numbers (hands.hake: Error([('SSL routines', 'ssl3_get_record', 'wrong version number')],)",),))). I tried to use different ssl versions with Curl, but it complains about the lack of support in libsso. So here I am now. Things what I deffinetly should figure out: - Make this work 😉 - Set the idp address in the correct place - Figure out how to start a Container in a Keystone plugin or a tempest plugin - Figure out ow to integrate with CI Any comments are welcome. Br, Gerg0 Curl 3 and 4 : Evgeny Brazgin - launchpad.net launchpad.net PPA contains libcurl4 package, which supports both libcurl3 and libcurl4 API. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: