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Hi, all. We continue the discussion about the keystone demo on ONS on yesterday's edge cloud call and today's EC WG call. The detailed progress are kept in the following etherpad page, under the OPNFV bullet.
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ECG_Keystone_Testing 

In general, we have made some progress on the demo setup, the resources for the demo, and the test scenarios.

1, for the lab resource, Julien will help to save some resource for the demo. I guess that will be in one of our ZTE lab? is that right, @Julien?
2, for demo setup, Manuel helps to give some introduction about the current progress for XCI. For now, we think we could promote the demo by deploy XCI twice in one lab, there are some manuel work required to setup the keystone federation. Details about the federation deployment are kept in Colleen's blog. 
http://www.gazlene.net/demystifying-keystone-federation.html 

Manuel will help look into this and see if it is possible to automate these. But we may need help from the keystone team.
3, for the test scenarios, Georg propose we could look into the impact of network condition, scalability, and hardware limitation, and see how these aspects can impact keystone federation.
I am trying to propose the following 3 test cases, and hope we could continue the discussion next week.

TC01: add network delay between user agent and identity provider. See how latency influence the federation mechanism
TC02: add bandwidth limitation between user agent and identity provider, see how bandwidth influence
TC03: creat a scenario with a number of (e.g. 1M) users authenticate together, from a certain nunber (e.g. 2) of service provider. and see how the scalability is for the identity provider. Such case could also be done when there are latency and bandwidth limitation between the user agent and the identity provider.

I would like to invite the keystone team and the edge cloud team to discuss about the test cases together during our next call.

Thank you.



中国移动研究院
网络与IT技术研究所
付乔 15901025951
 
From: Georg Kunz
Date: 2018-07-31 05:33
To: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest); fuqiao at chinamobile.com; rsblendido; Tim Irnich; ildiko
CC: trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui; Manuel Buil
Subject: RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation
Hi all,
 
Thanks Gerg0. In the meantime, I have also added two sections to the etherpad:
i)                    Test dimensions: Here I wanted to sketch test parameters beyond the purely functional tests that are/will be implemented in Tempest. The goal is to investigate how OPNFV test tools and environments can contribute to expanding the test coverage implemented in the OpenStack CI.
ii)                  Setup: we haven’t settled yet on the setup we want to use for the demo. This section summarizes a simple proposal which intends to strike a balance between a fully automatic deployment via XCI and manual steps to get a demo up and running in time.
 
Feedback is very welcome.
 
I am sorry if I missed that, but did we agree on a follow up meeting this week?
 
Cheers
Georg
 
From: Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) <gergely.csatari at nokia.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:16 AM
To: fuqiao at chinamobile.com; rsblendido <rsblendido at suse.com>; Georg Kunz <georg.kunz at ericsson.com>; Tim Irnich <tim.irnich at ericsson.com>; ildiko <ildiko at openstack.org>
Cc: trevor.cooper <trevor.cooper at intel.com>; Periyasamy Palanisamy <periyasamy.palanisamy at ericsson.com>; zhaoqihui <zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>; Manuel Buil <mbuil at suse.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation
 
Hi, 
 
 
I’ve added the log in demo idea to the „ONS demo ideas” section of the etherpad. Maybe we should verify with Keystone guys if this is possible ������ before we continue implementing it. 
 
Br, 
Gerg0
 
 
 
From: fuqiao at chinamobile.com [mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 3:58 AM
To: rsblendido <rsblendido at suse.com>; georg.kunz <georg.kunz at ericsson.com>; tim.irnich <tim.irnich at ericsson.com>; ildiko <ildiko at openstack.org>
Cc: trevor.cooper <trevor.cooper at intel.com>; periyasamy.palanisamy <periyasamy.palanisamy at ericsson.com>; zhaoqihui <zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>; Csatari, Gergely (Nokia - HU/Budapest) <gergely.csatari at nokia.com>; Manuel Buil <mbuil at suse.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation
 
Hi, all. thank you for the good discussion yesterday. I think we at least get the ball rolling from OPNFV side.
@Ildiko, Gergely will kindly help to provide a demo story for the keystone federation on the etherpad page, so as to help us get better understanding on what the keystone federation will do and what kind of testing we could excute. we plan to continue the discussion of the test scenario and test cases on next week's EC WG call, if you can help save a time slot?
Thank you again and hope to talk to you soon.
 


中国移动研究院
网络与IT技术研究所
付乔 15901025951
 
From: Rossella Sblendido
Date: 2018-07-25 18:07
To: Georg Kunz; Tim Irnich; fuqiao at chinamobile.com; ildiko
CC: trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui
Subject: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation
Hi Georg,
 
I got confused, thanks for the clarification!
 
Rossella
 
On 07/24/2018 11:34 PM, Georg Kunz wrote:
> Hi Rosella,
> 
> One comment for clarification: I am aware that baremetal deployments are still work in progress. Because of this reason my point was to install XCI virtual sandbox deployments on pre-configured baremetal hosts - explicitly skipping the baremetal deployment part of the hosts for the demo. Sorry, if that was not clear.
> 
> Best regards
> Georg
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rossella Sblendido <rsblendido at suse.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 12:38 PM
> To: Georg Kunz <georg.kunz at ericsson.com>; Tim Irnich <tim.irnich at ericsson.com>; fuqiao at chinamobile.com; ildiko <ildiko at openstack.org>
> Cc: trevor.cooper <trevor.cooper at intel.com>; Periyasamy Palanisamy <periyasamy.palanisamy at ericsson.com>; zhaoqihui <zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>
> Subject: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> On 07/24/2018 11:16 AM, Georg Kunz wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> chiming in here - please let me know if the following has already been 
>> discussed.
>> 
>> 
>> I agree that it would be good to refine the value proposition of the 
>> demo, i.e. where exactly can OPNFV add a value. In particular, what 
>> are the shortcomings of a DevStack environment? An automatic 
>> deployment of a federated Keystone is certainly a basic requirement to 
>> do anything useful, but that shouldn't be the sole value of the demo 
>> alone. In principle, this can also be done in a Devstack environment 
>> (-> see the entire OpenStack CI).
> I agree.
>> 
>> 
>> Instead, we should focus on creating edge-like environments and tests.
>> Some ideas:
>> 
>>   * I would favor deploying multiple federated tiny OpenStack instances
>>     (almost just Keystone?) over two full deployments (typical OPNFV
>>     scenario) to investigate scalability questions.
>> 
>>   * meddle with the network properties between instances by means of
>>     simple traffic shaping tools (tc and netem)
> 
> I like this one, I see it closer to real case. We could also completely cut the network for one deployment which was one of the tests mentioned during one of the last call if I good recall.
>>   * If we go for two "full" OpenStack deployments (typical OPNFV
>>     scenario), we could set up two XCI sandboxes on two baremetal 
>> machines
> 
> this can be tricky, as far as I know baremetal on XCI is still WIP
> 
> I can help and involve somebody more familiar than myself with XCI to join the effort here.
> Shall we schedule a kickoff call so that we can outline the demo and split tasks?
> 
> Rossella>
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Georg
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>> *From:* Tim Irnich
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:03:39 AM
>> *To:* fuqiao at chinamobile.com; ildiko
>> *Cc:* trevor.cooper; Periyasamy Palanisamy; zhaoqihui; Rossella 
>> Sblendido; Georg Kunz
>> *Subject:* RE: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open 
>> Infrastructure Federation
>>  
>> 
>> +Rosella and Georg.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Key question is how much do we need and what exactly do we want to 
>> build? Since I missed last week’s keystone testing call I’m not sure 
>> if I have the latest on what’s needed but in my mind we simply need 
>> two OPNFV deployments with keystone (most scenarios should have that) 
>> side-by-side and then write a few automated tests. Peri has some ideas 
>> about modifying XCI so that it can deploy more than one stack from the 
>> same jumphost, which sounded like a good idea to me.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Given that we want to demonstrate that setting up environments like 
>> this in OPNFV is simple, we should not need much effort for an initial stab.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> SO who would be able to spend time on this or find someone else to do it?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards, Tim
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> *From:* fuqiao at chinamobile.com <fuqiao at chinamobile.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2018 08:15
>> *To:* ildiko <ildiko at openstack.org>
>> *Cc:* Tim Irnich <tim.irnich at ericsson.com>; trevor.cooper 
>> <trevor.cooper at intel.com>; Periyasamy Palanisamy 
>> <periyasamy.palanisamy at ericsson.com>; zhaoqihui 
>> <zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open 
>> Infrastructure Federation
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi, Ildiko. thank you for the reply.
>> 
>> I am afraid the edge computing call this week is too late for me to 
>> stay sober and join the discussion...
>> 
>> probably we can spend some time discuss about this in next week's edge 
>> computing call, which time is more Asia friendly.
>> 
>> However, one thing at hand is, Brandon is asking about whether we have 
>> any updates on the demo discription, and he would very much need us to 
>> reply before Wednesday. So I guess one thing I need to confirm now is 
>> whether we have enough community interest and resource to accomplish 
>> this demo in such a short time? Do you have any idea about this?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>> 
>> 中国移动研究院
>> 
>> 网络与IT技术研究所
>> 
>> 付乔15901025951
>> 
>>      
>> 
>>     *From:* Ildiko Vancsa <mailto:ildiko at openstack.org>
>> 
>>     *Date:* 2018-07-24 12:28
>> 
>>     *To:* fuqiao at chinamobile.com <mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com>
>> 
>>     *CC:* tim.irnich <mailto:tim.irnich at ericsson.com>; Trevor Cooper
>>     <mailto:trevor.cooper at intel.com>; periyasamy.palanisamy
>>     <mailto:periyasamy.palanisamy at ericsson.com>; zhaoqihui
>>     <mailto:zhaoqihui at chinamobile.com>
>> 
>>     *Subject:* Re: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure
>>     Federation
>> 
>>     Hi Fu Qiao,
>> 
>>      
>> 
>>     Great, thank you for the update.
>> 
>>      
>> 
>>     We will have follow up discussions on Keystone Edge architecture
>>     options, so we didn’t really get to the end of that one.
>> 
>>      
>> 
>>     I will be flying during the time of tomorrow’s call. We can spend
>>     some time on this topic on the Edge Computing Group call if you can
>>     make that one?
>> 
>>      
>> 
>>     If not we can look into setting up something separately or sync on
>>     this thread.
>> 
>>      
>> 
>>     Thanks,
>> 
>>     Ildikó
>> 
>>      
>> 
>>      
>> 
>>     > On 2018. Jul 23., at 6:25, fuqiao at chinamobile.com <mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com> wrote:
>> 
>>     >
>> 
>>     > Hi，all. Seems that our demo proposal has been accepted.
>> 
>>     > Since I am out of office last week, I am not able to join ildiko's call for the discussion about the demo. Do you have any updates for this?
>> 
>>     > Ildiko, are you OK to share the progress of the discussion on this week's edge cloud call?
>> 
>>     > Thank you!
>> 
>>     >
>> 
>>     > fuqiao at chinamobile.com <mailto:fuqiao at chinamobile.com>
>> 
>>     >
>> 
>>     > From: Brandon Wick
>> 
>>     > Date: 2018-07-21 09:05
>> 
>>     > To: fuqiao; Cooper, Trevor
>> 
>>     > Subject: Demo Accepted: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure 
>> Federation
>> 
>>     > Dear Fu Qiao & Trevor:
>> 
>>     >
>> 
>>     > We are pleased to inform you that your demo idea submitted for the LF Networking Booth at Open Networking Summit Europe: OPNFV Testing for Open Infrastructure Federation has been accepted. Congratulations! There were many more
>>     submissions than available slots and the LFN leadership team thought
>>     your demo would provide significant value to the community.
>> 
>>     >
>> 
>>     > We are not yet final with the booth/kiosk design yet, but we will be following up soon with more information on the demo station, power, storage, chairs, internet, etc. We'll also share a timeline with a detailed
>>     list of next steps, but in the meantime, please provide us with the
>>     following by Tuesday, July 24.
>> 
>>     > • Confirm receipt of this email and that you still intend to attend ONS and execute this demo.
>> 
>>     > • Confirm your final demo title (10 words max)
>> 
>>     > • Confirm your final demo abstract (150 words max) for external publication (ONS website, Blogs, Newsletters, etc) and participating projects and companies. Note: This should be compelling answering the question
>>     Why should someone want to come see the demo)?
>> 
>>     > Best,
>> 
>>     >
>> 
>>     > Brandon Wick
>> 
>>     > Senior Integrated Marketing Manager
>> 
>>     > The Linux Foundation
>> 
>>     > bwick at linuxfoundation.org <mailto:bwick at linuxfoundation.org>
>> 
>>     > +1.917.282.0960
>> 
>>      
>> 
>>      
>> 
 
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